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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 08:56 PM
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I want to make sure I have all the engine grounds in the correct spot. Does anyone have a diagram? Thanks
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What problem are you having?
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Was constantly in reduced power mode. Now its showing fuel, stability, brake and suspension issues on the dash.

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Originally Posted by usmcpony
Was constantly in reduced power mode. Now its showing fuel, stability, brake and suspension issues on the dash.
Stability and brake should be the ground next to the lowest driver side timing cover bolt. If you have a flip drive, it's the lower bolt of that bracket... normally there's another bolt on the flip bracket to move that ground but I've put it directly to the block to ensure a good ground before too. Start there.
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Stability and brake should be the ground next to the lowest driver side timing cover bolt. If you have a flip drive, it's the lower bolt of that bracket... normally there's another bolt on the flip bracket to move that ground but I've put it directly to the block to ensure a good ground before too. Start there.
I have the flip drive. I know it connected. I'll loosen the pulley and wiggle it. Then retighten it.
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I have the flip drive. I know it connected. I'll loosen the pulley and wiggle it. Then retighten it.
That's the EBCM ground and it can cause a lot of faults... shouldn't cause fuel though. I threw my car back together in a rush once and learned about that ground the hard way.
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I found a diagram online and all of the grounds are definitely tight.
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One driver side close to the timing cover.

Two more towards to rear top of the block on each side.
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get a good charge on the battery, if you haven't already. put it on a tender overnight or something.
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Originally Posted by Blackonblacksls
I can think of 3 off the top of
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One driver side close to the timing cover.

Two more towards to rear top of the block on each side.
Is this on older ls3 motors? I can't find any behind the heads.
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Originally Posted by Steve Haefner
get a good charge on the battery, if you haven't already. put it on a tender overnight or something.
Brand new battery with a tinder
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I know you have HPTuners from reading one of your other threads. Can you connect with the editor and read both the ECM and TCM? If you can't read either one you have a CAN bus (serial data) issue.

The TCM is grounded at G106 which is above starter and is shared with the neg battery cable. If the ECM can't talk to the TCM it will throw "low fuel" warnings on the DIC.
When the editor reads the TCM it will disconnect it from the ECM while reading and you will see the "low fuel" warnings.

Does the car have F55? That module (ESC) is located behind the ECM and is grounded below the the engine bay fuse box. If it's having CAN bus issues or other issues you will get the stability/traction control and a msg saying you can't drive above 155 mph.

I have also seen the VCIM (which is high failure item) Voice Communication Interface Module (blue tooth and Onstar) hose up the CAN bus.

There are 6 modules on the CAN bus (5 if no F55) that can hose it up. You can jumper the input/output pins to take any one of the modules off the bus.

My experience with "reduced power" has been fuel, tune or ECM issues.

If you can read the ECM and TCM bring up the scanner and see what codes are being thrown.
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^^^^ by the way what I wrote up here is for a 6l80 car (which I think you have from other threads). If it's a stick car disregard the TCM stuff.

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Originally Posted by bmfvette
I know you have HPTuners from reading one of your other threads. Can you connect with the editor and read both the ECM and TCM? If you can't read either one you have a CAN bus (serial data) issue.

The TCM is grounded at G106 which is above starter and is shared with the neg battery cable. If the ECM can't talk to the TCM it will throw "low fuel" warnings on the DIC.
When the editor reads the TCM it will disconnect it from the ECM while reading and you will see the "low fuel" warnings.

Does the car have F55? That module (ESC) is located behind the ECM and is grounded below the the engine bay fuse box. If it's having CAN bus issues or other issues you will get the stability/traction control and a msg saying you can't drive above 155 mph.

I have also seen the VCIM (which is high failure item) Voice Communication Interface Module (blue tooth and Onstar) hose up the CAN bus.

There are 6 modules on the CAN bus (5 if no F55) that can hose it up. You can jumper the input/output pins to take any one of the modules off the bus.

My experience with "reduced power" has been fuel, tune or ECM issues.

If you can read the ECM and TCM bring up the scanner and see what codes are being thrown.
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