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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 10:12 AM
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if you want to keep your ati balancer you can use the older a&a secondary drive or one from dallas performance... if you do end up going with a new balancer I would go ahead and do a 10 rib as well
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by neverstop
rechmech has a secondary/flipdrive though and no way an f1x is running 8 rib without a flip drive?

the op is asking about no flip drive

I have yet to see a street car make >900whp reliably on 8 rib without flip drive or they have slip. It's not the bracket imo it's that an 8 rib without a flip drive is not going to do an f1a. Given the flip drive alternator issues reported of just do a 10 rib or do flip drive with a billetech alternator
You're not making 25 lbs of boost without a ten rib and direct drive, I agree with you completely.


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Didn't know you guys made a PC bracket.....how close to their bracket is yours ?

Our PC bracket is identical to our regular brackets, it just holds the PC head unit instead of Paxton.

That said I really shouldn't of even posted that video, one off stuff like PC brackets takes our machinist forever to make and just upsets customers.
Look at this thread alone, I have that little child Neutron82 following me around for 2.5 years because our machinist wouldn't make him ten rib spacers. Don't ask me why, we asked him two dozen times. so I think in this situation you are better off going with A&A brackets.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 11:49 AM
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A&A bracket w/ flip drive here...

8-rib and 30# of boost. Best brackets on the market!

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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryckter
A&A bracket w/ flip drive here...

8-rib and 30# of boost. Best brackets on the market!

What the hell do you know anyway
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Six-Gun-Todd
I've seen the billetech alternator referenced elsewhere.....does it have less load/higher efficiency that helps or is it just higher output that even with a touch of slip is still plenty ?
exactly this, it puts out so much more juice that even with some slip you're still fine. I haven't tested it with a flip drive but on my setup even when belt is slipping a touch (not sure if on the blower or the balancer but my guess is balancer since i have griptec pulley) the alternator is still putting out max. my car just runs better with it too, like it feels smoother and seems happier. plus the fans have tons of juice even at idle so I think it probably helped with cooling in traffic a little.

the new A&A setup looks amazing but it's pretty involved and imo a billetech alternator is a good upgrade anyway
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 01:28 PM
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new A&A bracket is amazing but if you have a good bracket now from ECS or whatever I'd think all you would need is a flip drive and then i'd highly recommend the alternator. can always sell your old one also to recoup some cost. not sure if you have one but a properly calibrated gates laser tool is required at higher power levels imo too
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 03:46 PM
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I would do the full A&A setup with their new DD. If you can afford a 900+rwhp vette, then the extra $300 or so for a balancer should be no big deal.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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you are better off going with A&A brackets.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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I would do the full A&A setup with their new DD. If you can afford a 900+rwhp vette, then the extra $300 or so for a balancer should be no big deal.
I won't argue that point....just not super fond of the process to swap the balancer.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neverstop
new A&A bracket is amazing but if you have a good bracket now from ECS or whatever I'd think all you would need is a flip drive and then i'd highly recommend the alternator. can always sell your old one also to recoup some cost. not sure if you have one but a properly calibrated gates laser tool is required at higher power levels imo too
Actual Procharger brand bracket which I understand isn't the greatest
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I have a 170a billet tech on my car and I logged 14v solid with the older style a&a secondary drive the last half mile I did... this is on a c5 though so if you use the older style on a c6 I highly suggest getting the c5 ac bracket setup as well... if you use the new style it doesn't matter since the ac side is not used to drive the jackshaft pulley
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 09:17 PM
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i have the A&A bracket and A&A are great guys with great service who make great parts. can't recommend highly enough

new style A&A flip drive is vastly superior to anything else but I also suspect that even using an older style flip drive is fine if you have billet tech alternator and good confirmation from neutron, billet tech isn't cheap though either so probably a coin toss although either would work great for you imo

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by neverstop
i have the A&A bracket and A&A are great guys with great service who make great parts. can't recommend highly enough

new style A&A flip drive is vastly superior to anything else but I also suspect that even using an older style flip drive is fine if you have billet tech alternator and good confirmation from neutron, billet tech isn't cheap though either so probably a coin toss although either would work great for you imo
Preference between the DD drive and the Cartek ?

And am I seeing it correctly....does the new A&A secondary drive have 4 belts ?
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is cartek even around anymore?... either way I'd stick with a&a, the design is similar to the cartek flip drive but they use a spring tensioner up top near the alternator so you don't have to mess with adjustments or worry about a manual tensioner loosening up and releasing tension on the belt... their new design does have 4 belts, one for the ac, one for the blower/waterpump, they machine the balancer in between the ac and blower belt ribs and add another 4 rib which runs the jackshaft pulley, and the last belt is for the alternator/power steering that is ran off the jackshaft pulley

here's what the balancer will look like

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 10:33 AM
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I live in Michigan and my driving season is drawing to a close....with enough disposable money and time to do either the A&A bracket or the secondary drive/DD which would give me the biggest bang for buck ? Definitely going to do both though....

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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 09:43 PM
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You will need both the A&A bracket and their secondary drive. You can just do the bracket now and add on the secondary drive later, but it may not solve your belt slip issues alone.
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