Supercharger AND twinturbo
#21
Drifting
Simply put you will not be able to reproduce the feeling of an electric motor using a fuel motor....period.
Beyond that, even if you could the packaging requirements of a vette would make it impossible as well and even if you could fit it all in there the roots blower would become a restriction on the upper RPM range not to mention adding a great deal of heat into the charge.
I'm not sure how much TQ you're looking for down low because the equalizing factor will always be how much the tires can hold. I can tell you that with my TT setup the 345 mickey's on the back are useless even at a part throttle roll.
- Travis
Beyond that, even if you could the packaging requirements of a vette would make it impossible as well and even if you could fit it all in there the roots blower would become a restriction on the upper RPM range not to mention adding a great deal of heat into the charge.
I'm not sure how much TQ you're looking for down low because the equalizing factor will always be how much the tires can hold. I can tell you that with my TT setup the 345 mickey's on the back are useless even at a part throttle roll.
- Travis
#25
Le Mans Master
with modern turbos sized correctly lag is a welcome friend many times as the "hit" of the turbos on the ttix arrives at 2800 and with a 3200 stall conv that really doesn't take long at all to arrive
traction is the limiting factor unless you drive below 2k rpms
I'm going boost by speed hopefully this winter so I can pull boost in the lower gears to stay hooked and ramp up the boost curve as the mph climbs to keep it planted
there are old pilots and bold pilots, but not many old bold ones
traction is the limiting factor unless you drive below 2k rpms
I'm going boost by speed hopefully this winter so I can pull boost in the lower gears to stay hooked and ramp up the boost curve as the mph climbs to keep it planted
there are old pilots and bold pilots, but not many old bold ones
#26
Racer
Thread Starter
Zenvo ST1 uses a LS7 copy with a Eaton supercharger AND a Garret turbo! Constantly making minimum 0,4 bar (5,8 psi)
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/sti...-1100bhp-zenvo
Watch approx 7 mins out in this video:
...where they mention "instant throttlerespons"
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/sti...-1100bhp-zenvo
Watch approx 7 mins out in this video:
#27
Drifting
there have been production vehicles using a compressor and turbo, e.g. lancia integrale. why go to this trouble, though, when you can do sequential turbos? iv done one setup and it had full boost from 2500 to 7000 rpm. as far as i know, the bmw m5 has max, contant torque from 2000 to 7000 rpm or similar.
Last edited by romandian; 11-11-2017 at 08:55 AM.
#28
there have been production vehicles using a compressor and turbo, e.g. lancia integrale. why go to this trouble, though, when you can do sequential turbos? iv done one setup and it had full boost from 2500 to 7000 rpm. as far as i know, the bmw m5 has max, contant torque from 2000 to 7000 rpm or similar.
Oh and it wasn't a true compound setup anyway! The SC would be bypassed at a set RPM anyway.
OEMs don't **** about with compound anyway. They fit suitable sized turbos for the power they want to make.
#29
No it won't. Feeding pressurized air through PD is not a problem. Instead it cures some problems which appear when PD is trying to suck a lot of air from atmospheric pressure. Been there and done "turbo to PD to IC to engine"-system and it kind of worked.
Heat, extra weight, supercharger I/C placement in V-engine and things like that makes the thing not worth it though.
For 6 litre engine with limited revs and low boost ability you can get quite good response with right sized turbos.
Heat, extra weight, supercharger I/C placement in V-engine and things like that makes the thing not worth it though.
For 6 litre engine with limited revs and low boost ability you can get quite good response with right sized turbos.
#31
Racer
Or you could get these guys to build you an electric corvette....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfX0hHbPOM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfX0hHbPOM
i'd sell the corvette and build one of these. instant throttle response.
Last edited by dkz; 11-23-2017 at 11:32 PM.