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Geeze! I hope you are the only one. Bad choice of words on my part.
I'm just saying I'm going to design a complete kit so that this blower can be bolted on with an intake, drive system, and intercooler that will work as well as I can possibly make it.
I really think it needs an air to water setup. There just isn't room for a big enough air to air without totally blocking everything off up front. Hell, there may not be enough room to do an adequte water to air inside the engine bay but I'm going to give it a go.
This is definitely not going to be a mainstream blower kit that everyone is going to want. It's going to be a very small niche market and a bolt on kit will help a lot. Not everyone has the time,
materials, tools and ability to make their own, although there are certainly a number who do. It will be interesting to see what I can come up with.
Copy Errol Spence Jnr v Danny Garcia! I so wish I could see this fight in Australia!! Lucky all of you!
Got to stop by A&A today! Turns out I’m not working to far from their shop so I figured I drop by and try and get a look at this monster in person!! I can be terrible with names sometimes and I’m not 100% sure who I was talking to today, it wasn’t Andy I believe he was out for the day. Anyway the gentleman I did speak with was awesome! I gave him a brief rundown as why I stopped by(just a centri C6z owner in the area for work) he was real cool showed me and few buddies the blower and we got to talk corvettes for a few minutes(they were pretty busy) So thank to A&A for taking a few minutes to talk show me around the shop a bit and let me get a look at this bad boy!!!
Just a quick update. We have two large water to air coolers mocked up in the left and right fenders, in front of the tire. They are rated at 1400 HP each, so there will be more than enough capacity for pretty much anything you can throw at it.
We're running a 3 1/2" Y out of the blower into 3" tubing to each cooler. 3" tubing comes out of each cooler to another Y and then to a 4" tube to the throttlebody.
The heat exchanger is 26 X 7 X 3 1/2 with a 2 1/2 gallon ice / water reservoir in the back of the car. I'm using a 1200 GPH bait pump from West Marine mounted directly in the tank. These pumps work great in this sort of application. A ton of water flow is key in cooling the charge air.
On the inlet side, we're running a 4 1/2" aluminum tube directly into the blower. I just need to find a filter that is big enough for street use.
This is looking real good so far. I think I'm going to make a similar setup available for the YSi when this is finished.
Andy are you going to be testing to see what kind of IATs are produced by just hooking it up to your current a2a intercooler? Just to show people why it'll need an a2w intercooler to be ran on the street.
Seems like a waste of time. Plenty of testing and results from the current cooler showing it taps out way before what this blower can do. Plus if you are really building a 1500+rwhp setup, stuff like cheaping out on intercooling isn't even a thought.
Yep, and most of them are not the tiny little off the shelf A&A A2A. It would be like asking if he could dyno this on a SBE, sure it could make power, but what is the point? We all already know the FMIC on there is undersized massively for this blower and power level. Now if you are asking him to build a bigger A2A and test that, cool. But from Ysi/F1/etc we already know that the base A&A, ECS or PC coolers are going to be too small.
Just a quick update. We have two large water to air coolers mocked up in the left and right fenders, in front of the tire. They are rated at 1400 HP each, so there will be more than enough capacity for pretty much anything you can throw at it.
We're running a 3 1/2" Y out of the blower into 3" tubing to each cooler. 3" tubing comes out of each cooler to another Y and then to a 4" tube to the throttlebody.
The heat exchanger is 26 X 7 X 3 1/2 with a 2 1/2 gallon ice / water reservoir in the back of the car. I'm using a 1200 GPH bait pump from West Marine mounted directly in the tank. These pumps work great in this sort of application. A ton of water flow is key in cooling the charge air.
On the inlet side, we're running a 4 1/2" aluminum tube directly into the blower. I just need to find a filter that is big enough for street use.
This is looking real good so far. I think I'm going to make a similar setup available for the YSi when this is finished.
Just a quick update. We have two large water to air coolers mocked up in the left and right fenders, in front of the tire. They are rated at 1400 HP each, so there will be more than enough capacity for pretty much anything you can throw at it.
We're running a 3 1/2" Y out of the blower into 3" tubing to each cooler. 3" tubing comes out of each cooler to another Y and then to a 4" tube to the throttlebody.
The heat exchanger is 26 X 7 X 3 1/2 with a 2 1/2 gallon ice / water reservoir in the back of the car. I'm using a 1200 GPH bait pump from West Marine mounted directly in the tank. These pumps work great in this sort of application. A ton of water flow is key in cooling the charge air.
On the inlet side, we're running a 4 1/2" aluminum tube directly into the blower. I just need to find a filter that is big enough for street use.
This is looking real good so far. I think I'm going to make a similar setup available for the YSi when this is finished.
That should do it! Other shops have had plenty of sucsess mounting coolers there. Think vengeance have done it on a coupe of their twin turbo builds. Be nice to see what cores you are running? Have seen garretts 1000bhp cores fit. Have you seen the CSF 6x6x12 core?
I will second that. Was just researching the air to water intercoolers yesterday. Only problem was there was definite questionability between automotive websites as to the efficiency between A2A vs A2W. I thought for sure the A2W would be favored hands down, not so. Lots of different opinions on the matter. Technology is advancing , would be nice to reduce AIT consistently. Heat soak is a big problem for those of us in southern states. Was almost 90 degrees yesterday here in FL , and its only April ! FAWK !!
Originally Posted by Unreal
Off the shelf air to water setup would be awesome. Looking forward to results.
I will second that. Was just researching the air to water intercoolers yesterday. Only problem was there was definite questionability between automotive websites as to the efficiency between A2A vs A2W. I thought for sure the A2W would be favored hands down, not so. Lots of different opinions on the matter. Technology is advancing , would be nice to reduce AIT consistently. Heat soak is a big problem for those of us in southern states. Was almost 90 degrees yesterday here in FL , and its only April ! FAWK !!
Problem is most of what you probably found is out of box a2w. Not stuff talking about 1300+how. At those levels it is hard to get big enough a2a and not overheat with any street driving. A2W can run huge water tank to combat that and ice at the track.
The air to air cooler is too small - period. I decided from the beginning that I was going to design a whole new system for this blower.
Here are a couple of mockup pictures on a C5. We're just working on this as we have time but it's coming along.
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