2005 C6 E-Force - external fuel pump woes
#21
Drifting
Thread Starter
Mine ended up being just a bad alternator, I replaced it with a higher amp unit without the clutch on it (make sure to red loctite the nut if you do this). It could be your Alternator as it gets warm or your starter as it gets a little cooked by your headers. If your battery is up front you can always run a power wire from the battery directly to the lug on the alternator to rule out your starter being faulty.
My alternator died pretty quickly after running both pumps + my EMP pump for the coolant tank full time.
My alternator died pretty quickly after running both pumps + my EMP pump for the coolant tank full time.
Yep, that’s the same thing I was thinking. It’s possible that the way it’s set up, it’s losing prime on the hit and the pump is cavitating. The first thing I would do is flip the pump over and try to keep the inlet on the pump as close to the bottom of the tank as possible.
Good thing I'm getting pretty good at cutting up PTFE hose - and installing these fittings.
If the alternator is indeed bad - I'll order the replacement olives, more hose, and get this thing flipped over - while I'm waiting for the alternator to get here.
#22
Pro
I agree with the placement of the pump being off. I would get it as low as possible, Ideally where it can be gravity fed up to the pump. I had a similar issue with my external pump setup. I thought it was power related, but it ended up my internal pump was just failing. replaced it with a 450l and all is good.
#23
Instructor
I agree with the placement of the pump being off. I would get it as low as possible, Ideally where it can be gravity fed up to the pump. I had a similar issue with my external pump setup. I thought it was power related, but it ended up my internal pump was just failing. replaced it with a 450l and all is good.
#24
Drifting
Thread Starter
Hello everyone - its been a little while but I finally had time to work on the Vette.
1st update - I removed the alternator and had it tested 3x - it passed all their tests under load and was told it is still good.
2nd update - I did a test launch - fuel pressure dropped. I stopped and tripped the secondary pump (DW Fuel Pump) to run full time.
I did another test launch - and the fuel pressure was at 70 psi and dropped to 50-55 psi - so again - with both pumps running it dropped ~20 psi.
I do not know the exact fuel pressure it dropped down because the test road I was on is abandoned and it got super sketchy - lol.
3rd Update - my PFTE olives should be in later this week - and I am going top disassemble the external pump - flip it - and put it back together.
I will do another round of tests - 1) Hobbs switch plugged in and 2) the fuel pump tripped to run full time - and I will report back the results.
Thanks.
1st update - I removed the alternator and had it tested 3x - it passed all their tests under load and was told it is still good.
2nd update - I did a test launch - fuel pressure dropped. I stopped and tripped the secondary pump (DW Fuel Pump) to run full time.
I did another test launch - and the fuel pressure was at 70 psi and dropped to 50-55 psi - so again - with both pumps running it dropped ~20 psi.
I do not know the exact fuel pressure it dropped down because the test road I was on is abandoned and it got super sketchy - lol.
3rd Update - my PFTE olives should be in later this week - and I am going top disassemble the external pump - flip it - and put it back together.
I will do another round of tests - 1) Hobbs switch plugged in and 2) the fuel pump tripped to run full time - and I will report back the results.
Thanks.
#26
Looking at your photo again, I think there’s three things that you need to change that will solve your problem, because I’m pretty sure that what you are experiencing is the pump losing prime and cavitating. Firstly, I would replace that tiny filter on the inlet side with a larger high flow filter, because I’m pretty sure that is causing a restriction. These kind of pumps don’t pull very well, so they need free flow and no restriction on the inlet side. Then I would rotate the elbow so that it’s horizontal rather than pointing upwards, which may require you to replace it with a 120 or 150 degree like the ECS kit uses, so that it hugs the corner of the tank for clearance. Finally, as I had said before, flip the pump over so that the inlet is on the bottom.
I’ll bet you a six pack of beer that’ll solve your problem.
I’ll bet you a six pack of beer that’ll solve your problem.