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Old Aug 14, 2019 | 01:12 PM
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Ok Im a newbie to forced induction but im going to ask this question anyway: will the wrong MAP sensor cause your Absolute Manifold Pressure to read high? Causing your tuning software to calculate your boost way higher than it really is? I installed a supercharger and had it tuned. I was doing some data logging and noticed that my boost was more than double than what i expected. I checked the formula in HP tuners and it is correct. I also checked the barometric pressure and that appeared dead on, but the absolute manifold pressure I think is way high causing the boost level on HP tuners to read way high. I put 2 different mechanical boost gauges on and they both read within the range i expect. So this leads me to believe that I have the wrong MAP installed? The tune I have installed is a 3bar ZR1 tune. Please dime in and advise please. Oh BTW the car runs fine, maybe a little rich. Thanks
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Is it reading about 14.7 psi higher than expected?
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I have a Heartbeat supercharger on my LS3.

The kit comes with an LS9 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor ... GM P/N: 12592525

You need the LS9 MAP sensor in boosted applications.

The Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor used is the OEM stock LS3 'blade type' sensor ... no need to change.
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
Is it reading about 14.7 psi higher than expected?
Somewhat close to that (14.7)
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I have a Heartbeat supercharger on my LS3.

The kit comes with an LS9 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor ... GM P/N: 12592525

You need the LS9 MAP sensor in boosted applications.

The Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor used is the OEM stock LS3 'blade type' sensor ... no need to change.
Thats what I am thinking. Ill check that part number. Also the tune is speed density.
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The LS3 MAP sensor has a black colored label on it.

The LS9 MAP sensor has a red colored label

Here is what the LS9 (3 bar) sensor looks like, with it's red label ...


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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
The LS3 MAP sensor has a black colored label on it.

The LS9 MAP sensor has a red colored label

Here is what the LS9 (3 bar) sensor looks like, with it's red label ...

Thanks turbo. Im pretty sure this is the issue.
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Originally Posted by vetteOnTheRun
Somewhat close to that (14.7)
You need to remove 14.7psi cause we have 1 atmosphere on earth
Every 6.9 kPa over 101, is 1 PSI
A 3bar map sensor in reality can only read around 30psi on your car.
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Originally Posted by Al_Scrap
You need to remove 14.7psi cause we have 1 atmosphere on earth
Every 6.9 kPa over 101, is 1 PSI
A 3bar map sensor in reality can only read around 30psi on your car.
Exactly - absolute pressure includes atmospheric pressure. I believe the value you want to use is Calculated Boost
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
Exactly - absolute pressure includes atmospheric pressure. I believe the value you want to use is Calculated Boost
Thanks for the input. My new Map sensor will arrive today. I will likely install it tonight after work. I will post up my results. If everything goes good my next step will be looking for a good tune using HP Tuners for my A6.
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Originally Posted by vetteOnTheRun
Thanks for the input. My new Map sensor will arrive today. I will likely install it tonight after work. I will post up my results. If everything goes good my next step will be looking for a good tune using HP Tuners for my A6.
The ZR1 MAP sensor fixed my problem. Thanks guys!
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