Tuning software?
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4th Gear
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From: Brooklyn NY
Tuning software?
Not sure if this the right place to post,
but is there a free ecu flash/tuning software for the corvette obdII system?
I would like to self tune and not have to pay for HP Tuner. I know on a Mitsubishi and Subaru platforms they have professional tuning software for free. Just wanted to gauge what its like for GM and Ford race cars.
but is there a free ecu flash/tuning software for the corvette obdII system?
I would like to self tune and not have to pay for HP Tuner. I know on a Mitsubishi and Subaru platforms they have professional tuning software for free. Just wanted to gauge what its like for GM and Ford race cars.
Instructor
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Houston Texas
Not sure if this the right place to post,
but is there a free ecu flash/tuning software for the corvette obdII system?
I would like to self tune and not have to pay for HP Tuner. I know on a Mitsubishi and Subaru platforms they have professional tuning software for free. Just wanted to gauge what its like for GM and Ford race cars.
but is there a free ecu flash/tuning software for the corvette obdII system?
I would like to self tune and not have to pay for HP Tuner. I know on a Mitsubishi and Subaru platforms they have professional tuning software for free. Just wanted to gauge what its like for GM and Ford race cars.
Non free that I know of.....
Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Oro Valley AZ
I did an extensive search over a couple of months, and didn't find anything.
Closing note, If you don't have any experience tuning with a laptop, this is not a trial and error kinda place. I would suggest that you look into The Tuning School.
Closing note, If you don't have any experience tuning with a laptop, this is not a trial and error kinda place. I would suggest that you look into The Tuning School.
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4th Gear
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From: Brooklyn NY
I just kinda took for granted how much support you get from Mits and Subi forums with dedicated free tuning software and support. The parts are a lot more expensive and most of the goodies has the 3 months waiting period once ordered from Japan..
Trade offs
Former Vendor
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From: Trenton NJ
I realized that from looking around the forum. It kinda going back a few decades, when fuel injection was really catching on and no one knew how to make it go faster with just electronics.
I just kinda took for granted how much support you get from Mits and Subi forums with dedicated free tuning software and support. The parts are a lot more expensive and most of the goodies has the 3 months waiting period once ordered from Japan..
Trade offs
I just kinda took for granted how much support you get from Mits and Subi forums with dedicated free tuning software and support. The parts are a lot more expensive and most of the goodies has the 3 months waiting period once ordered from Japan..
Trade offs
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Race Director
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From: Between a rock and a hard place, S.E. PA
That's the understatement of the year.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
Former Vendor
Joined: Dec 2004
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From: Trenton NJ
That's the understatement of the year.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
For instance the idle section of our help file http://www.hptuners.com/help/vcm_edi...g_idle_rpm.htm
Mind you our help files have taken years & thousands of man hours to create for the average Joe, many of which have gone onto careers as tuners for tunershops, Including friends not to mention the success story emails I get on a daily basis being our first line of support.
As far as unlocking new features for pro's, we are constantly unlocking features and parameters that will help everyone, real time tuning, ETC parameters, new scanner features, these all get funneled down from our customers that are growing(tuningwise) at a fast pace & want more & more functionality as well as more things to toy & experiment with.
On a day to day basis I get 50:1 feature requests from your average customer wanting to fix a minor nuance compared to a "pro" asking for something.
Just something to chew on
Safety Car
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From: Cheektowaga NY
St. Jude Donor '08
While your input is appriciated I must respectfully disagree with the amount of time & effort that is put into our help files.
For instance the idle section of our help file http://www.hptuners.com/help/vcm_edi...g_idle_rpm.htm
Mind you our help files have taken years & thousands of man hours to create for the average Joe, many of which have gone onto careers as tuners for tunershops, Including friends not to mention the success story emails I get on a daily basis being our first line of support.
As far as unlocking new features for pro's, we are constantly unlocking features and parameters that will help everyone, real time tuning, ETC parameters, new scanner features, these all get funneled down from our customers that are growing(tuningwise) at a fast pace & want more & more functionality as well as more things to toy & experiment with.
On a day to day basis I get 50:1 feature requests from your average customer wanting to fix a minor nuance compared to a "pro" asking for something.
Just something to chew on
For instance the idle section of our help file http://www.hptuners.com/help/vcm_edi...g_idle_rpm.htm
Mind you our help files have taken years & thousands of man hours to create for the average Joe, many of which have gone onto careers as tuners for tunershops, Including friends not to mention the success story emails I get on a daily basis being our first line of support.
As far as unlocking new features for pro's, we are constantly unlocking features and parameters that will help everyone, real time tuning, ETC parameters, new scanner features, these all get funneled down from our customers that are growing(tuningwise) at a fast pace & want more & more functionality as well as more things to toy & experiment with.
On a day to day basis I get 50:1 feature requests from your average customer wanting to fix a minor nuance compared to a "pro" asking for something.
Just something to chew on
Sent you a pm.
Supporting Vendor
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From: SCOTT LA
I don't see the hp tuners software as a vette tax. The charge 499 for the cable and software Standard package. Considering it comes with 8 credits you could tune 4 cars. $125 to have the capability to tune 1 car is not a vette tax. I spend that a week in gas. When you look at vendors like myself who sell it with free shipping and then give discounts on credits later I think its a fair price. Especially given the research these guys do to be able bring this stuff to the market for us.
Go and try to get SCT software to tune your car with for Ford. You will see a tax!!!
Pro
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I don't see the hp tuners software as a vette tax. The charge 499 for the cable and software Standard package. Considering it comes with 8 credits you could tune 4 cars. $125 to have the capability to tune 1 car is not a vette tax. I spend that a week in gas. When you look at vendors like myself who sell it with free shipping and then give discounts on credits later I think its a fair price. Especially given the research these guys do to be able bring this stuff to the market for us.
Go and try to get SCT software to tune your car with for Ford. You will see a tax!!!
Go and try to get SCT software to tune your car with for Ford. You will see a tax!!!
Advanced
Joined: Feb 2009
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From: Southern New Jersey
I paid $99 for a tune by ECS at Carlisle 2 yrs ago. How can you beat this price for something that's alot more complicated than adjusting your tires air pressure? IMO leave it to a pro, who has the experience.
Former Vendor
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From: Austin Texas
I have been using HP Tuners for many years and their products/support are unmatched. When people find out that tuning is easy, makes you think, I could have done that. Their are 2 tuner shops in my area that rape the PE table for heads/cam Vettes and that is a "pro tune".
Safety Car
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From: St. Louis, MO
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That's the understatement of the year.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
Table: XYZ maximum threshold adjustment.
Description: Adjusts the maximum XYZ threshold.
Thanks for clearing that up.
HPT's aim is far above the average Joe. The learning curve is STEEP for those of us without an automotive technical background. Great software, lousy support. In other words, they're so busy unlocking new features for the pros they overlook helping novices with the basics. And that's ok, but it has to hurt sales because they're ignoring a huge market.
Go tell GM that you think it's a bunch of crap that a person with zero automotive technical and EFI background can't walk in off the street and immediately calibrate a PCM, and see what they say.
Safety Car
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From: Austin, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Houston, Dallas, Hong Kong, Elgin, etc.. Texas
Tuning a PCM is about 1000 times more complex that tuning a car from the 1960's, so I expect any software to be complex. This is the future of the hobby and so you might as well embrace it.
I purchased HP Tuner Pro as my Christmas present and for the 1st month, all I did was read various books, talk to people, and join the HP Tuners Forum. There are a few quirky processes but after a while, you get used to them.
I am in the process tuning my own car thus am on about the 25th version of my VE table. No joke. Over the weekend, I used 2 tanks of gas. It also gives me an excuse to go out and drive in the country. I am still a newbie and have a long, long way to go. I am sure the second car I do will take about 1/10th the time.
Whatever software you decide to buy, you need to get a Wide Band O2 sensor. Also, I highly recommend "Engine Management Advanced Tuning" by Greg Banish. I bought my copy at Barnes & Noble but you can get it at www.cartechbooks.com. It really helps to understand the theory.
I purchased HP Tuner Pro as my Christmas present and for the 1st month, all I did was read various books, talk to people, and join the HP Tuners Forum. There are a few quirky processes but after a while, you get used to them.
I am in the process tuning my own car thus am on about the 25th version of my VE table. No joke. Over the weekend, I used 2 tanks of gas. It also gives me an excuse to go out and drive in the country. I am still a newbie and have a long, long way to go. I am sure the second car I do will take about 1/10th the time.
Whatever software you decide to buy, you need to get a Wide Band O2 sensor. Also, I highly recommend "Engine Management Advanced Tuning" by Greg Banish. I bought my copy at Barnes & Noble but you can get it at www.cartechbooks.com. It really helps to understand the theory.
Race Director
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From: Between a rock and a hard place, S.E. PA
But this is all opinion so it's not worth arguing over. It's their business model, not mine.
Safety Car
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From: St. Louis, MO
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That's where we disagree then, because I think they appeal to a market they aren't so willing to help (yet). It's priced low enough to be within enough peoples reach that some of those people probably shouldn't be playing with it without better guidance. In the absense of that guidance, there will be frustration that will only hurt future sales.
But this is all opinion so it's not worth arguing over. It's their business model, not mine.
But this is all opinion so it's not worth arguing over. It's their business model, not mine.
Oh well, they must be doing something right, because they're still in business and still very popular.
