HP Tuner with Auto trans C6
#2
Be carefull letting people talk you into tuning it, lots of tuned a6s explode, where as stock ones with just MILD changes, live under alot of power for a long time.
#3
Safety Car
Most of the A6s that fall apart are a result of the tuner not keeping the numbers "true" which results in bad torque calculations and broken parts.
#4
DSteck, can you explain what "true" means? I am very familiar with Mitsubishi Evo's and Dodge SRT-8 (Magnum) tuning, but I do not catch what you mean by keeping the numbers "true" on the Vette.
My 06 2500HD Duramax/Allison had communications from the ECU to the TCU so that the engine would defuel between shifts in order to keep the tranny alive, and my MSRT-8 has a TQ controlling algorythm that some tuners turn off or defeat. Is there something similar on the A6's in the Corvette hat needs to be left alone?
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My 06 2500HD Duramax/Allison had communications from the ECU to the TCU so that the engine would defuel between shifts in order to keep the tranny alive, and my MSRT-8 has a TQ controlling algorythm that some tuners turn off or defeat. Is there something similar on the A6's in the Corvette hat needs to be left alone?
Thanks
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The A6 in the vettes does have TM during the shifts, were it pulls timing during the shifts. You can remove if you like, leave it alone if your worried about the life of the transmission.
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DSteck, can you explain what "true" means? I am very familiar with Mitsubishi Evo's and Dodge SRT-8 (Magnum) tuning, but I do not catch what you mean by keeping the numbers "true" on the Vette.
My 06 2500HD Duramax/Allison had communications from the ECU to the TCU so that the engine would defuel between shifts in order to keep the tranny alive, and my MSRT-8 has a TQ controlling algorythm that some tuners turn off or defeat. Is there something similar on the A6's in the Corvette hat needs to be left alone?
Thanks
My 06 2500HD Duramax/Allison had communications from the ECU to the TCU so that the engine would defuel between shifts in order to keep the tranny alive, and my MSRT-8 has a TQ controlling algorythm that some tuners turn off or defeat. Is there something similar on the A6's in the Corvette hat needs to be left alone?
Thanks
#8
Melting Slicks
On upshift you can reduce TM by simply shortening shift times but I have found no way to reduce on downshift. I've tried working with Base Power downshift, Base CT downshift, Downshift Normal, Shift Torque factor, Shift Torque Factor Adder and more and nothing seems to eliminate the slow downshift from 25 mph and up. If you know the trick on partial TM reduction on downshift I would like to know. Downshift from 25 mph and up are granny slow!
I'm thinking maybe it's in the spark tables rather than TM?
I'm thinking maybe it's in the spark tables rather than TM?
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To be honest with you I haven't messed to much with the downshift. I don't drive around hitting it at low speeds to see how fast it downshifts. I think if anything getting rid of the TM during downshifts could damage a tranny worse than on the upshift.
It may be just my thinking here, but on the upshifts as the rpms go up the torque is being decreased. On the otherhand if the tranny downshifts from say 2-1 the torque would be multiplied because of the lower rpm and lower gear. To me that would shock the internals of the tranny.
Who knows I may be totally off on the thinking
It may be just my thinking here, but on the upshifts as the rpms go up the torque is being decreased. On the otherhand if the tranny downshifts from say 2-1 the torque would be multiplied because of the lower rpm and lower gear. To me that would shock the internals of the tranny.
Who knows I may be totally off on the thinking
#10
Melting Slicks
You may be right on downshift having more of a detrimental effect than upshift. But over a second from 5-1 or 6-2 to shift seems overly conservative when the 4-1 takes less than 1/2 second. I don't want all TM/advance eliminated just some. You don't have to be at slow speed either. Even at 55 mph it slow to power.
I have taken friends for a ride and they have mentioned how long it takes to power after WOT.
I have taken friends for a ride and they have mentioned how long it takes to power after WOT.
#11
CT downshift means Closed Throttle downshift so this will not do anything when trying to make it downshift faster when you're gettin on it. And like Dsteck said, make sure your VCM tune is correct before you dial in your TCM tune, line pressure and shift times are based on delivered engine torque and temperature for the most part, and if you airflow and spark tables are off, your shifting will be too.
#12
I agree with you on which will cause more damage if the down shift is because you are downshifting to accelerate. if the down shift is done during de-celeration then the harm is min. any shift where the power is going to be applied then the computer is going to assue clutch lock prior to letting torq come on. I am going to LG motorsports Monday to talk about the changes.
I would like to see if any members with automatics have had the TM turned off with the LG tune and what issues if any they had.
I would like to see if any members with automatics have had the TM turned off with the LG tune and what issues if any they had.
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On upshift you can reduce TM by simply shortening shift times but I have found no way to reduce on downshift. I've tried working with Base Power downshift, Base CT downshift, Downshift Normal, Shift Torque factor, Shift Torque Factor Adder and more and nothing seems to eliminate the slow downshift from 25 mph and up. If you know the trick on partial TM reduction on downshift I would like to know. Downshift from 25 mph and up are granny slow!
I'm thinking maybe it's in the spark tables rather than TM?
I'm thinking maybe it's in the spark tables rather than TM?
#14
Melting Slicks
After more testing I found out that only below 25 mph was TM where I wanted. Takes about .4 to downshift with some advance reduction below 25 mph but anything above 25 mph is over a second with lots of timing reduction.
#15
can you tell me the different sections that control torq and how each affects the car. or can you point me to a site that can explain the TM.
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Melting Slicks