When I turn off the traction control and then goes to competitive mode.What does that mean and is that what I want to do when I go to the track.I would just like to know what it means when you set it from normal to the competitive mode.

 

Full on means trac and yaw modes 100% (ie the most intrusive and thus idiot proof mode)
Trac/Yaw off...your own your own and hope you know what you are doing otherwise you might get a 180 deg view of where you just came from
Comp Mode means the system will let you go to the edge before intruding unless you feel you can beat the laws of physics

Also for those accel buffs..to minimize the torque program go to comp or full off

Sorry for the simple but to the point
Michael

 

...leave her off, grab a hold and go.

 

Ouch,,

I guess I should have read the manual more carefully... I thought the first press of the button just disabled the traction control, and the second press "Competitive driving mode" was to completely disable the active handling intervention.
thanks for this post

Note: I was disabling the TC (one press) in dry weather due to a disconcerting incident. I made a hard right and pulled into traffic on dry pavement. The tires spun a bit and then suddenly the car was gutless and lost some power. A car pulled up tight behind me and wasn't too appreciative that I had pulled out ahead of him and then SLOWED down. Ever since I was pressing the button once when I guess I should have been pressing it twice!

 

has anyone noticed a difference in times at the track trying both modes. I would imagine that leaving in competitive mode would help as long as your a decent driver.

 

When you are in comp mode you still have all fuel but it will still control the brakeing or wheel slip.

 

OK hold it!
In competition mode, your traction control is OFF, and your active handling is ON. In competition mode there is NO wheel slip control. You can smoke the tires at the dragstrip or on the street without intrusion UNLESS the car gets sideways. At this point, the active handling will correct the direction of the car for your intended purpose via steeringwheel inputs. This is a VERY safe NON-INTRUSIVE safety feature for anyone dragracing. Many dragracers here will tell you that active handling saved them from hitting the wall at the dragstrip. These cars have enough power to fishtail and lose control. Anyone who has been to a dragstrip has seen at least one car lose control and either crash or have a near miss. With competition mode, this will unlikely ever happen.

The traction control situation described above probably saved you from losing control as well. Pulling out and stepping on it around a corner is a classic example of how to send your car doing a 360. The system would rather see you slow down and make another driver mad than lose control and make another driver dead. It shouldn't have interfered much if at all, had you been pushing it only to the edge of traction. If you were beyond reason, it will pull you down hard. Primarily intended for wet conditions. If you like to drive aggressively and spin the tires occasionally, go ahead and turn TC off during nice weather, but leave AH ON!

I even leave AH on when at the track, until I've become familiar enough with the track to begin driving 10/10ths. It has saved me many times from losing it, as I'm a maniac at the track and tend to push my car beyond its limits quite often.

Good luck, have fun.

 

If I am remembering correctly, the AH is less intrusive when in comp mode than when fully on. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me on this.

Also there have been two times when I pulled out of a driveway and TC/AH kicked in so much it felt like I completely lifted off the gas, but I was going 5mph max. Both times it was the same driveway. I think with so much torque available even just off idle, the tire that was going over the transition from the driveway to the street bagan to spin. At such low speeds the difference between the spinning wheel and the others is so big TC probably went crazy on it.

This doesn't suprise me though. I've noticed that on a lot of surfaces you can't hear the tires slip, especially with the windows and top up. I've had the rear sliding in a turn a few times where there was no audible tire noise at all.

 

Kinda off the subject. But how are you guys hitting G's in the low 1.0s? Last night I maxed out at .86 for an all time high on my 1000 mile old Vert. It seemed like anymore and I would be spinning 360s.

Are you going into the turn super hot and just turning the wheel hard as you coast through the turn?

In my above scenario I went in to the turn semi hot and then accelerated some out of it. Maybe the acceleration is the key that is making me lose it. Well it's obvious that is it but is there more Gs reachable coasting through a turn after a very hot entry?

So how are you hitting the low 1.0s?

Also tell me if they are on right turns or sweeper left turns.

 

Im still not ALL clear on this. I know that Comp. mode is to turn off the Traction control. And Pressing it for five seconds is to turn off both Traction and Active handling. But what about if you just press the button once ( where the light indicator of the car leaving that skid mark is on) do?? Whats the difference between pressing the button once vs. pressing it twice?? Will someone please explain to me.. Thanks

 

I'm pretty sure that pressing once turns off TC and does nothing to AH, twice is comp mode which turns of TC and gives a less aggressive AH, and then holding, which turns both off. So the difference is the level of intrusiveness of the AH.

 

The indicator with the skidding car tells you that everything is OFF. I'm still driving a C5 (waiting for my C6Z) so I think the button combinations are different but the effect is the same. You have only two things to control, TC traction control and AH active handling. You can have both OFF, or TC OFF with AH ON, or both ON. When you start the car, both are ON by default. So your only options are both OFF or Competition Mode (AH on, TC off). Look at your manual for the proper procedures for accomplishing this.

 

Now this makes sense. Thanks.. maybe i should start reading the manual. I only skimmed throgh it since i got the car in January.

 

4 modes.

Full TC and AH. This is the default. The car will aggressively pull power to avoid rear wheel spin, and will aggressively intrude when it detects excessive yaw.

Push once, and TC is totally off, AH is still totally on. Wheelspin is permitted, but excess yaw is still aggressively eliminated.

Push twice quickly, competitive mode. TC is totally off, and AH has reduced aggressiveness. It'll let you swing the rear end out a bit before intruding and correcting your line.

Push and hold for 5 seconds. TC and AH both completely off. You're on your own, no help from the car, burn your tires, spin your car, its all up to you. Experts only.
Probably, you aren't spinning the tires at all. TC just thinks you are because the tire coming off the driveway turns further than the tire that's already off the curb cut. That's how TC detects wheelspin, by noting one tire is turning more than the other for the angle of turn the yaw sensor is reporting. One wheel bumps while you're going straight can do the same thing.

 

In the C6, the symbol of the skidding car means AH is trying to correct a slip situation. It does not mean the system is off. As I explained in another post, there are actually 4 modes in the C6.

 

gotcha. As I explained, I don't actually own a C6 yet. I knew it was different, just didn't know how. Thanks