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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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...suck the chrome off a English door **** plated in China! Alright boy's and girl's, here is my assessment of the Callaway Honker. While performance is and will always be an issue, I was in search of that "sucking" sound, reminiscent of some of my muscle cars from the 60's and 70's. On a scale from 1-10 (10 being the best), I give the Honker CAI a 7, in the sound department. Going thru the gears, noticed in the 3 to 4 RPM range, I've got a nice sound...not quite like I remember from my muscle cars, but very nice, none the less.
Theory: With or without mods, the Corvette is a performer, but with a nice exhaust, headers, and intake, I'm honning in on not only better performance, but that muscle car sound I miss from some of my earlier rides. I've given this a lot of thought, but from my seat, I think when comparing my vert to the cars of past, I have to remind myself of the following; 1) The overall construction and insulation on the new Corvettes is much better than my muscle cars of the past, thus cutting down on what you end up hearing in the cockpit,. In addition, I think over the years, I've probably exaggerated the sound of my previous cars...too some extent. None the less, I give the Callaway good marks in the "whomp-waw" sound department and I'm sure it will help overall performance/hp increase to as well.
Plus': I love the way it blends in with the engine/factory look, while truly giving me CAI.
Minus': Installation/removal of the plastic shroud is a PITA.
If I had it to do all over again, would I go with the Honker? ...no regrets, love the overall appearance, sound and performance increase.
Ran the car for about 60 miles...didn't throw any codes, everything was good-to-go from the DIC. Ran the car out just a little this morning, going to work with no traffic (5a.m)...breezed by 120 (short blast) with nice sound. I've got to be honest, for those strictly looking for the "sound" quality piece, I'll probably lose most of that when I install my headers, w/X-pipe, on my Corsa Sports. But none the less, she sounds strong!

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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Hmmm, got my stinger and I cant say it added a whole lot of sound. It is hardly discernable at idle and low throttle operation. With heavy throttle you can hear it but it is still farily modest in the inductions sound department. Everything about these units say I should be getting a lot more sound than you. Not sure what to make of that. Guess we will see if its just a subjective thing next time we meet.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Alright, the Stinger is on! ...yeah, nothing at idle, more noticeable getting on it at the higher rpm range. Like I said, I think my expectations were way high. Guess I could sell it and find me another 69 chevy, with Cowl Induction.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Now I'm psyched about putting mine on.

Just been 2 BZ

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Why not save yourself some money, record just those sounds you want to hear, and just listen to them on your 8-track whilest you drive?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JFTaylor
Now I'm psyched about putting mine on.

Just been 2 BZ

Thanks guy

JT - what happened to putting the Honker on last weekend

If you head back up to Norva, I'll be glad to help
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
Why not save yourself some money, record just those sounds you want to hear, and just listen to them on your 8-track whilest you drive?
Not a bad idea Ace! Better yet, next time, I'll check with you 1st.
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A fuel injected motor will NEVER sound like a carburetted engine.
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sound is not the biggest issue with me. im more concerned with the performance. did you notice any difference in seat of the pants feel?
what do you think you gained 5 -10 hp. how long did the install take?
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The only way to really know is to go to the drag strip. IMHO

Seat of the pants won't tell.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stanleyp
A fuel injected motor will NEVER sound like a carburetted engine.
Add to that the different firing order of the LS? engines and the aural sensation is quite different.

I need a translation for half of what Kreuzen posted?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by c6 corvette Z51
sound is not the biggest issue with me. im more concerned with the performance. did you notice any difference in seat of the pants feel?
what do you think you gained 5 -10 hp. how long did the install take?
I drove it quite a bit this weekend, got on it a lot and it "seemed" to feel stronger....could of been wishful thinking on my part. But to be honest, I couldn't put a hp gain on it (?). Like some of the others have said, you would need to take her to the strip to get any real idea of gains. The combination of the honker, headers w/X-pipe, and exhaust will result in hp gain, but since my headers still haven't arrived, won't be able to dyno to report/share how much for a few weeks. I'll let you guys know what I find out down the road. Install took about 3 1/2 hours.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FLC6
The only way to really know is to go to the drag strip. IMHO

Seat of the pants won't tell.
don't you trust the ***-o-meter ?
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Originally Posted by need-for-speed
don't you trust the ***-o-meter ?
I was asked the same thing with the stinger and... There are not enough numbers from enough people for me to feel good about saying with any confidence what you might reasonably expect to gain with any of the intakes. But, lets take em at face value. Callaway posted a dyno run showing a 10 hp gain on here a little while back. That would be what, a 3% gain rear wheel? You would need to have a pretty highly calibrated *** to pick that out SOTP. With the stinger I think I may have gained but its just not enough to seperate possible wishful thinking from the equation. I put a rail pressure box on my truck a few years ago and went ahead and installed it at the lowest setting which was 40 hp. As soon as I rolled I knew I gained power. It wasnt an OMG thing but there was absolutely no question in my mind. The dyno soon confirmed that it did indeed give me 40 hp in that setting. The truck is 7400 lbs so that would be more like adding 20 to one of our cars. I guess where Im going is I dont think you need huge numbers to feel real SOTP but 10 is questionable, at least in my mind.
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PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

The post is WORTHLESS without the pictures of the install!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

The post is WORTHLESS without the pictures of the install!!!!!!
Bill, you need to follow the tech forum a little closer! Beezeye provided excellent photo's of the Honker install on 6/8/05. How many photo's do you need? Check it out...
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Originally Posted by Kreuzen
Bill, you need to follow the tech forum a little closer! Beezeye provided excellent photo's of the Honker install on 6/8/05. How many photo's do you need? Check it out...
Here is the thread and some pics of the Honker install from the earlier thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...7&forum_id=101


Also, here is a close-up of the installed C6 Honker Air Box >>







Originally Posted by beezeye
Here's the shroud removed and almost ready to cut. They supply a template you tape on the area between your tape marks. The template shows where to cut a big rectangle out of the shroud and where to drill 12 holes for your rivets around the edge of your cutout area:


Here's the shroud after I cut the rectangular hole in it. I used my saber saw at the top of the picture, and then trimmed it up with some metal snips and filed the edges smooth. You could cut the whole thing out with metal snips or a hack saw. After cutting the opening, you clamp the filter frame to the shroud and drill through the 12 holes you previously drilled in the shroud - this time you drill through them and into the filter frame. Then you stick the 12 supplied pop rivets into the holes. That's what this picture shows. I'm getting ready to clinch the rivets with the pop-rivet tool next to the saber saw:


Here's the shroud with the filter frame riveted to the shroud and with the filter installed:


Here's a picture of the other side of the shroud and the intake ready to install in the car:


Here's the shroud back in the car. You can see that now the intake air is going to come from the grill and underneath the car instead of from the engine compartment. You can still look straight down through the filter frame and see the floor below. You can also see there will be a lot of air available to the intake and that it will be a nice smooth bend in the intake as it funnels it up to the bellows and into the TB:


Here's the filter in the frame:


And here's the Honker mounted to the filter frame and the bellows hooked back up to the TB. Ready for a test drive!!!:


I hope this might help anybody who will be getting a Honker (or any of the other intakes that require cutting the shroud). JT said he has sitting on the DR table - come on JT, have a couple of fingers of bourbon and get to it!!!

Anybody who is going to do it and this didn't answer your questions, give me a PM and I'll see if I can help.

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Originally Posted by crabman
I was asked the same thing with the stinger and... There are not enough numbers from enough people for me to feel good about saying with any confidence what you might reasonably expect to gain with any of the intakes.
I was just being my usualsmartassesself

I agree, the ***-o-meter is only accurate enough to detect changes > 10%
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Originally Posted by stanleyp
A fuel injected motor will NEVER sound like a carburetted engine.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stanleyp
A fuel injected motor will NEVER sound like a carburetted engine.
How would you know. You're about as deaf as I am
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