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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:51 AM
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So can someone help me with this? I've had to have my car jumped 2 time in the last 2 months. I do everything right' I put the car in reverse and set the emergency brake. So why do I end up with a dead batterie every once in a while
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Have you pulled relay #46 (under the hood). Worked for me! LOTS of info if you do a search. It is called DBS (Dead battery syndrome)
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So can someone help me with this? I've had to have my car jumped 2 time in the last 2 months. I do everything right' I put the car in reverse and set the emergency brake. So why do I end up with a dead batterie every once in a while
Lock your steering column and lock the car with your key fob. This puts the car to bed. Also pull relay 46. It has worked for me after several DBS episodes.
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This still seems to be somewhat of an anomaly...in addition to shutting the car down properly, as some have suggested, pulling relay #46 (not needed, operates European model headlight washer system) seems to help, although depending on who you talk to, the drain on the battery would seem minimal at best. Others contend they were victims of the crappy AC Delco battery syndrome and have replaced their battery's with Optima, etc., eliminating the problem. I'd start with pulling #46, since it can't hurt anything, and depending on your faith in your present battery, you may want to go ahead a spring for an Optima/better quality battery and work it out from there. Hopefully, as many others have reported, this will take care of your problem. I personally have never had a problem with DBS....however, I also pulled relay #46 several months ago, just as a precaution. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Steve Germany
Have you pulled relay #46 (under the hood). Worked for me! LOTS of info if you do a search. It is called DBS (Dead battery syndrome)
I have the same problem with my C6, and I pulled Relay 46 and made no difference. Had two dead batteries since? what's wrong with this electrical system...need help.
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Most DBS's reported have been with MN6 left properly in reverse.
The latest info suggests that we need to ensure that the steering wheel locks into place before exiting.

Relay #46 is not needed so remove it.

I have not had DBS since Jan. and always use 'passive lock'.
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Lock your steering column and lock the car with your key fob. This puts the car to bed. Also pull relay 46. It has worked for me after several DBS episodes.

I have a MN6 and never lock my steering wheel, never lock the car at home and I did remove relay 46 and in 5 month's and 4300 miles have never had DBS. In addition the car sit's up to a week at times. Something is wrong with some Corvettes and hopefully Chevrolet will find out what it is.
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I have had DBS 3 times since I picked up my Z51 MN6 Coupe in May. The first incident probably would have been a DBS but I noticed the car had woke up on its own with the parking lights on so I shut it back down. The car had been sitting for either 1, 2 or 3 days that time but since it took me totally by surprise I didn't pay much attention to timing. I still can't get this OnStar out of my mind since they have access to many circuits. OnStar is basically just a Verizon paging system. I would like to ask the group if anyone without OnStar has had DBS. If it is random with or without OnStar I will focus in a different direction. Thanks.
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Gotta say, since Apr 22, with 12,000 miles, I've never once had a DBS. No relays have been removed, I use the garage door opener (no OnStar - we don't need no stinkin OnStar). I always shift to reverse before shutting down, pull the E-brake, and make sure the steering column is locked before exiting the car.

I don't know if this has contributed to my good fortune - and obviously enough people have experienced this issue to make it more than simple "operator error", but no one as of yet has found a clear-but resolution to the problem either.

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I have had DBS 3 times since I picked up my Z51 MN6 Coupe in May. I would like to ask the group if anyone without OnStar has had DBS. If it is random with or without OnStar I will focus in a different direction. Thanks.
No onstar, power top, nav or xm, my personal choices, I ordered the car this way.
Knock on wood, but have not had a problem in over a month. Did not use the car for a week, then took it out yesterday and it fired right up.(voltages on DIC were at normal levels)

Now I shut down car by the numbers put in reverse, back up a little as proof, pull on e brake, push off button, turn the wheel till it locks, get out of car, close door wait by car till ALL lights except blinker by radio go out. NOTE I DO NOT USE ALARM WHEN IN GARAGE, car is unlocked. put keys on desk 30 feet from car
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onstar would not explain difference between manuals and automatics, neither would relay 46...neither is the largest cause....

Onstar could cause it, but I don't think relay 46 could....
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onstar would not explain difference between manuals and automatics, neither would relay 46...neither is the largest cause....

Onstar could cause it, but I don't think relay 46 could....
I agree that on the surface OnStar would not explain the difference between manuals and automatics. My thoughts here are since automatics don't require the complex shut down routine to prevent the steering column from locking when driving, (I am assuming the automatics steering lock is somehow hooked to the "Park" position although "assume" is a dangerous word) possibly OnStar could effect the cars differently. Does anyone know what the shut down routine is for the automatics? Now that I think about it, I remember reading in the manual that if you shut an automatic off and it's not in "Park" you will get a message "shift to park"
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Do you have to set the parking brake and go to reverse ever time you shut down?? If so, wonder what whiz kid at GM thought that up.
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So can someone help me with this? I've had to have my car jumped 2 time in the last 2 months. I do everything right' I put the car in reverse and set the emergency brake. So why do I end up with a dead batterie every once in a while
Please, PLEASE! Go buy yourself a Priority Start now! There are a million threads on this topic, no one knows why this happens, they all think they do, but there are always exceptions to these "fixes". Yes, I know, it sucks, but accept it and get a Priority Start.

It's cheap, it will disconnect your battery before it goes dead, you re-enable it by pushing your brake pedal or turning on your lights, and you will never have another dead battery again. Just think, you'll never be stranded, never have to jump start your car or call the flatbed. Ahhhh....

Now, you have no more excuses for having a dead battery!

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Originally Posted by BlackMagik
I agree that on the surface OnStar would not explain the difference between manuals and automatics. My thoughts here are since automatics don't require the complex shut down routine to prevent the steering column from locking when driving, (I am assuming the automatics steering lock is somehow hooked to the "Park" position although "assume" is a dangerous word) possibly OnStar could effect the cars differently. Does anyone know what the shut down routine is for the automatics? Now that I think about it, I remember reading in the manual that if you shut an automatic off and it's not in "Park" you will get a message "shift to park"
Automatics don't have a column lock.
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If you don't shift an automatic to park, it will also not shut down and the battery will die. You get similar warnings if you fail to put it in park.
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My car is back at the dealer,same thing happened except even in reverse my DIC said put car in reverse.Service manger said it was a bad brain(computer) the main one.Lots of crazy things have been going on with the car temp control changing by itself gps going nuts and i swore my passenger door opened by itself. The other day my battery went dead i surged it off but the reverse thing came up.Drove it to the dealer ASAP.I think this is like the 6th time my car has been in for problems.They will have the part Thursday ill post what it was exactly.Its my understanding my car was built in 11/04 number 9000something.Its looking like a real bad build time.Hey on the upside it sounds great with my blora system!Don't know if allowed to name the dealer the service department is top notch they have been so supportive and helpfully eagle Chevy riverhead NY thanks bob.

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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Make sure you are in reverse and set brake B4 you shutdown.....I haven't had a dead battery since GM explain that one module will stay on if you don't use this procedure. Give it a try.....
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Please, PLEASE! Go buy yourself a Priority Start now! There are a million threads on this topic, no one knows why this happens, they all think they do, but there are always exceptions to these "fixes". Yes, I know, it sucks, but accept it and get a Priority Start.

It's cheap, it will disconnect your battery before it goes dead, you re-enable it by pushing your brake pedal or turning on your lights, and you will never have another dead battery again. Just think, you'll never be stranded, never have to jump start your car or call the flatbed. Ahhhh....

Now, you have no more excuses for having a dead battery!

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It's easy to install and worth the investment.
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I haven't heard of priority start until this thread. Are there a lot you you out there with this product? I had DBS for the first time yesterday, car being towed in to dealer tomorrow. I'm going to demand a new battery. Car is a MN6, July 2005 build, 31000 VIN series.



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