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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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I have a MN6 coupe. I just installed the B&B Bullets. The sound is awesome from outside the car, and magnificent with the top off.

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With the top on, the resonance (drone) is overpowering. My question to all those with first hand knowledge is: will the X pipe help the problem or should I trade for the Route 66's?

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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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I currently have the bullets also but am switching to the Route 66 because of the drone. I don't necessarily think the x-pipe is gonna help. There was a thread on this in general discussion earlier in the week. Do a search and you should find it.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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No drone. Why do people keep putting these obviously under-engineered exhaust systems on thier Corvettes? It boggles my mind. If the car drones there is a problem.
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I have the B&B Route 66's on my A4 Vert and the drone was annoying. Since I live only a few miles from the B&B Factory, I complained and theys said "Bring it down... we'll put on an X-pipe with resonators that should help". But It didn't do a thing. I'm just learning to live with it. I wish I'd kept my stock exhaust.
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No drone. Why do people keep putting these obviously under-engineered exhaust systems on thier Corvettes? It boggles my mind. If the car drones there is a problem.
Why? Because some of us are happy with the tradeoff. I have ridden in two C6's with Corsas, and I personally would not buy them because they are not much louder than stock to me, but I don't go around questioning why someone would do it - and saying "it boggles my mind" why they would do it.

The fact that a car drones does not indicate there is a problem. It just means that to get the sound some of us like, there is a "drone" that we have to live with. B&B openly admits they are not for everyone - that's why the also make the Route 66 system.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by zach lawrence
I have a MN6 coupe. I just installed the B&B Bullets. The sound is awesome from outside the car, and magnificent with the top off.

However . . .

With the top on, the resonance (drone) is overpowering. My question to all those with first hand knowledge is: will the X pipe help the problem or should I trade for the Route 66's?

Thanks.
Trading for a RT 66 system will not eliminate the drone. I'm sure it would be more tolerable but there is still obvious resonance in the 1500 rpm range. I honestly believe Corsa is the only aftermarket exhaust with absolutely NO drone. However, as Schindler points out, they may or may not provide the sound you want. I have owned both and I prefer the Corsas.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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Why? Because some of us are happy with the tradeoff. I have ridden in two C6's with Corsas, and I personally would not buy them because they are not much louder than stock to me, but I don't go around questioning why someone would do it - and saying "it boggles my mind" why they would do it.

The fact that a car drones does not indicate there is a problem. It just means that to get the sound some of us like, there is a "drone" that we have to live with. B&B openly admits they are not for everyone - that's why the also make the Route 66 system.


Yes it does indicate there is a problem. It indicates that the system is not evacuating the exhaust efficiently and the energy is converted into that anoying drone! As for questioning people...
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Yes it does indicate there is a problem. It indicates that the system is not evacuating the exhaust efficiently and the energy is converted into that anoying drone! As for questioning people...
Sorry, but no way do I buy that the drone indicates a lack of efficiency in evacuating the exhaust. It's simply a resonant frequency issue. In fact, the Bullets have been independently tested by Vette Magazine last month, and showed a significant power and torque improvement across the range.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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I have the bullets and thinks its the perfect exhaust if you want to real muscle car tone.The corsas are to tame for me and are good for guys who are older complaining about their hearing.I went to a dyno tune day where 3 c6s had the corsas before my car got on and then everyone heard mine and they all had grins saying how good it sounded.Everyone has their opinions,just be happy with what you prefer.I dont buy the guy saying that the bullets dont flow as good as corsas,that just simple BS!
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I'm 19 and the bullets were too much for me. I think the Route 66 system should be alright. If not, then i'll get the new B&B X-pipe that they should be coming out with in a few weeks.

And yes, I do know that they are currently selling x-pipes but they are in the process of making an X-pipe that will actually quiet down the exhaust unlike the current ones they have.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by zach lawrence
I have a MN6 coupe. I just installed the B&B Bullets. The sound is awesome from outside the car, and magnificent with the top off.

However . . .

With the top on, the resonance (drone) is overpowering. My question to all those with first hand knowledge is: will the X pipe help the problem or should I trade for the Route 66's?

Thanks.

The X-Pipe won't help the drone. We tested every exhaust we could get and the "drone-free , and still great sound King" is the GHL.

Charlie
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCVET
I have the B&B Route 66's on my A4 Vert and the drone was annoying. Since I live only a few miles from the B&B Factory, I complained and theys said "Bring it down... we'll put on an X-pipe with resonators that should help". But It didn't do a thing. I'm just learning to live with it. I wish I'd kept my stock exhaust.
I thought that the X-pipe with resonators was not yet available from B&B. Don't want to doubt but did you see the resonators or did they just install the current X-pipe? We know the the current pipie does nothing for the drone, but B&B said that the future ones with resonators will help.
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Originally Posted by CharlieTuner@AandACorvette
The X-Pipe won't help the drone. We tested every exhaust we could get and the "drone-free , and still great sound King" is the GHL.

Charlie
Charlie,

I agree with, but did you test the new B&B x-pipe with resonators? I don't think they are yet available to the general public! Please let us know.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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I have the bullets and agree that there is some resonance at low rpm. I bought them after hearing the much tamer Corsas, & Borlas. I got the sound I wanted and I am happy. When I hear the resonance I just accelerate and presto it goes away!
to the Bullets!

If I had wanted tame exhaust I would have stayed stock.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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I thought that the X-pipe with resonators was not yet available from B&B. Don't want to doubt but did you see the resonators or did they just install the current X-pipe? We know the the current pipie does nothing for the drone, but B&B said that the future ones with resonators will help.
The x-pipe with resonators is available. I've had it on for about 5 weeks. The resonators are just behind the flanges. Only sound difference I've noticed is slightly less burble on decel.
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The x-pipe with resonators is available. I've had it on for about 5 weeks. The resonators are just behind the flanges. Only sound difference I've noticed is slightly less burble on decel.
Man, that's my favorite part. Looks like no x-pipe for me.

My Bullets do drone, but I think it's much ado about nothing. If you don't want drone, which is simply the exhaust having the right frequency and energy to cause harmonic vibration, you've got to either change the frequency or decrease the energy. The first will change the tone of the exhaust, and may or may not work, as the frequency changes with engine RPM -- it's almost a given that at some point you'll hit the resonant frequency. The second works pretty well, but it means that you'll need a quieter exhaust -- like the factory one.

The Bullets are the extreme other end of quiet. Of course there will be drone.
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The x-pipe with resonators is available. I've had it on for about 5 weeks. The resonators are just behind the flanges. Only sound difference I've noticed is slightly less burble on decel.
I'm trying to get rid of some of the drone. I like the burble. Are you MN6 or A4? I'm not sure it makes a difference. I guess it's foulish of me to spend an additional 350 PLUS $ and get rid of the wrong thing. Anyone else have the same experience as JHBRENNAN with the new B&B X-pipes?
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Why? Because some of us are happy with the tradeoff. I have ridden in two C6's with Corsas, and I personally would not buy them because they are not much louder than stock to me, but I don't go around questioning why someone would do it - and saying "it boggles my mind" why they would do it.

The fact that a car drones does not indicate there is a problem. It just means that to get the sound some of us like, there is a "drone" that we have to live with. B&B openly admits they are not for everyone - that's why the also make the Route 66 system.
How in the world could you say that there isn't much difference between the stock and the Corsa Sports???? I think there is quite a difference! I don't know if the fact that my car is a vert or not, but I can tell you from my personal experience that there is a very noticable difference between the two. Enough said on that!
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How in the world could you say that there isn't much difference between the stock and the Corsa Sports???? I think there is quite a difference! I don't know if the fact that my car is a vert or not, but I can tell you from my personal experience that there is a very noticable difference between the two. Enough said on that!
I never said that my opinion is the absolute right opinion - I just said that is how I feel. And I have ridden in two C6's with Corsa's (one just last week).

I also see posts that say the Route 66's have a drone. I rode in one, and to me it had no drone at all. I am the first to admit that sound is highly subjective.
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I'm trying to get rid of some of the drone. I like the burble. Are you MN6 or A4? I'm not sure it makes a difference. I guess it's foulish of me to spend an additional 350 PLUS $ and get rid of the wrong thing. Anyone else have the same experience as JHBRENNAN with the new B&B X-pipes?
A4 - I really don't think the x-pipe w/ resonators did much at all to the sound. They are still loud, still resonate and still burble - great sound all the way around.
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