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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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On the C5 you could check codes on the DIC by turning the key on without starting the engine and then pushing the options button once and the fuel button 4 times.

Since there is no ignition switch on the C6 did Chevy provide another way to read codes or is a scanner required for the C6?
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Originally Posted by FFR-Z06
On the C5 you could check codes on the DIC by turning the key on without starting the engine and then pushing the options button once and the fuel button 4 times.

Since there is no ignition switch on the C6 did Chevy provide another way to read codes or is a scanner required for the C6?
Tech 2 or if you have OnStar, OnStar can read the codes.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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A scanner that can handle CAN (GMLAN) is required, such as the Tech II with CANdi or AutoXray 4000.
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A scanner that can handle CAN (GMLAN) is required, such as the Tech II with CANdi or AutoXray 4000.
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Do you have hands on experience with Autoxray working with the C6. I have been looking for a code reader/scanner for the past year for my C6 without much luck. Your input would be appreciated.
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Do you have hands on experience with Autoxray working with the C6. I have been looking for a code reader/scanner for the past year for my C6 without much luck. Your input would be appreciated.
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Yes. I have the AutoXray 4000 with GM-specific upgrade, it does work with the C6. They don't have a 2005 update yet (or didn't last time I looked on the site), but the "GM 2004" program works fine.
This device reads and resets codes, does the general emissions service checks and has real-time and triggered data capture for the two dozen or so basic OBD-II parameters. The GM-specific upgrade adds another thirty or so parameters.
Overall, it's a fairly reasonable troubleshooting tool for a lot less than the Tech 2 with CANdi. What it doesn't have is the specialized active features like the fuel-injector flow testing.
It comes in a nice case with room for cables and notes and is rugged enough to use in a service environment.
The models 5000 and 6000 are (from what I can tell) the same basic tool with more cables and software included.
I got mine from tooltopia (http://www.tooltopia.com) for about $250. The GM-specific upgrade was another $50 from AutoXray (no hardware, it's just an enable code).
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A scanner that can handle CAN (GMLAN) is required, such as the Tech II with CANdi or AutoXray 4000.
Thanks for the info
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Yes. I have the AutoXray 4000 with GM-specific upgrade, it does work with the C6. They don't have a 2005 update yet (or didn't last time I looked on the site), but the "GM 2004" program works fine.
This device reads and resets codes, does the general emissions service checks and has real-time and triggered data capture for the two dozen or so basic OBD-II parameters. The GM-specific upgrade adds another thirty or so parameters.
Overall, it's a fairly reasonable troubleshooting tool for a lot less than the Tech 2 with CANdi. What it doesn't have is the specialized active features like the fuel-injector flow testing.
It comes in a nice case with room for cables and notes and is rugged enough to use in a service environment.
The models 5000 and 6000 are (from what I can tell) the same basic tool with more cables and software included.
I got mine from tooltopia (http://www.tooltopia.com) for about $250. The GM-specific upgrade was another $50 from AutoXray (no hardware, it's just an enable code).
Buffy,
That's great news and thanks for the quick response. There is no way I could live without a code reader!
Just clarify one thing, how does the GM specified upgrade get inputted into to the basic unit. I don't understand "enable code". Thanks in advance for you response.
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Buffy,
That's great news and thanks for the quick response. There is no way I could live without a code reader!
Just clarify one thing, how does the GM specified upgrade get inputted into to the basic unit. I don't understand "enable code". Thanks in advance for you response.
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Sorry, I should have explained better. It's a software upgrade but the software is already installed on the reader, it's a matter of entering a code to enable it.
You order the upgrade directly from AutoXray, either online or by phone. They charge you $49 and give you a code which you enter into the reader to enables the features. The code is tied to the serial number of your reader.
You don't need the upgrade to read and reset codes or to read the 23 OBD-II parameters or emissions test results. It does enable reading a number of GM-specific parameters like IAC / EGR positions, cylinder misfire history, etc. that may be helpful in tracking down or predicting problems.
They also have extended feature sets for Ford and Toyota, priced separately.
The software version upgrade is a separate thing; you can get the latest code from the autoxray web site and load it into the reader at no cost. There's a PC-based utility used to do this, the CD for this ships with the reader.
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Originally Posted by calemasters
Tech 2 or if you have OnStar, OnStar can read the codes.
DO NOT count on OnStar to give you codes. When you call them they can read the code BUT will only give a general description of the code, no code # and they cannot re-set. I had the CEL and got OnStar, they told me "it's exhaust emmisions related, take it to the Dealer within 7 days". You still have to go to a Dealer that has a Tech 2.

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Originally Posted by Buffy
Sorry, I should have explained better. It's a software upgrade but the software is already installed on the reader, it's a matter of entering a code to enable it.
You order the upgrade directly from AutoXray, either online or by phone. They charge you $49 and give you a code which you enter into the reader to enables the features. The code is tied to the serial number of your reader.
You don't need the upgrade to read and reset codes or to read the 23 OBD-II parameters or emissions test results. It does enable reading a number of GM-specific parameters like IAC / EGR positions, cylinder misfire history, etc. that may be helpful in tracking down or predicting problems.
They also have extended feature sets for Ford and Toyota, priced separately.
The software version upgrade is a separate thing; you can get the latest code from the autoxray web site and load it into the reader at no cost. There's a PC-based utility used to do this, the CD for this ships with the reader.
Buffy,
Thanks again -excellent info!!
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FFR-Z06
On the C5 you could check codes on the DIC by turning the key on without starting the engine and then pushing the options button once and the fuel button 4 times.

Since there is no ignition switch on the C6 did Chevy provide another way to read codes or is a scanner required for the C6?
On the C5 you could even check the codes while driving...yes...I know that is not a recommended thing to do!

I think GM got tired of too many people checking codes themselves and decided to remove that ability.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
DO NOT count on OnStar to give you codes. When you call them they can read the code BUT will only give a general description of the code, no code # and they cannot re-set. I had the CEL and got OnStar, they told me "it's exhaust emmisions related, take it to the Dealer within 7 days". You still have to go to a Dealer that has a Tech 2.
Sometimes you can twist the arm of the OnStar rep to tell you exactly which codes it is throwing. Sometimes they won't budge. It depends on the person you are talking with. Sometimes it helps if you say "Is it throwing code P0123"?

It is not a very reassuring feeling when the OnStar rep is looking at your list of codes and their meaning and they ask "Is your car still running with those problems? Take it in for service immediately!"
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You can get codes while the car is on. Just do the same thing. I've retrieved codes while the car is running and driving as well. Just option and fuel 4 times, same procedure and it goes through the same motions and lets you into manual mode after.
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You can get codes while the car is on. Just do the same thing. I've retrieved codes while the car is running and driving as well. Just option and fuel 4 times, same procedure and it goes through the same motions and lets you into manual mode after.
You can do this on the C6?
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Originally Posted by FFR-Z06
You can do this on the C6?
NO; These are C5 guys in the wrong Forum.
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walmart carries the Innova 3030 code reader which WILL read the c6 and allow you to clear the MIL/SES light, $69.96
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Originally Posted by Buffy
Sorry, I should have explained better. It's a software upgrade but the software is already installed on the reader, it's a matter of entering a code to enable it.
You order the upgrade directly from AutoXray, either online or by phone. They charge you $49 and give you a code which you enter into the reader to enables the features. The code is tied to the serial number of your reader.
You don't need the upgrade to read and reset codes or to read the 23 OBD-II parameters or emissions test results. It does enable reading a number of GM-specific parameters like IAC / EGR positions, cylinder misfire history, etc. that may be helpful in tracking down or predicting problems.
They also have extended feature sets for Ford and Toyota, priced separately.
The software version upgrade is a separate thing; you can get the latest code from the autoxray web site and load it into the reader at no cost. There's a PC-based utility used to do this, the CD for this ships with the reader.
So since the software is already installed, there is no cost involved with making it work with this car; the 49 bucks is a vette tax.
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walmart carries the Innova 3030 code reader which WILL read the c6 and allow you to clear the MIL/SES light, $69.96
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Will it clear a C.E.L.?
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Will it clear a C.E.L.?
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as in "check engine light", yes.

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