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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Forum vendors here L.A.P.D. installed Kooks headers & a Vararam intake spacer on my C6 Z51 6sp. yesterday. The car already has K&N air filters & the poormans magnaflow muffler mod. This car ROCKS now! Before pull was Max power = 340.12 Max Tourque = 334.63 After was Max power = 379.32 & Max Tourque = 381.32 ! Im sooooo... happy, this is with no ECM tuning yet! Bob Scheer

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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why didn't they tune it? software not available? love to hear the numbers afterwards. cb
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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There waiting for the release of the HP tuner software!
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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canyon vette,

Thanks for the kind words. We were very happy with the power you got and we are glad that you are happy with the way the car runs. We will post the dyno sheet up for all to see the before and after results.

All this WITHOUT tuning. Not bad at all. We will be able to get you even better numbers once HP Tuner is released for the C6.

Again, thank you for the kind words.

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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I asked Lingelfelter whether they thought the Vararam spacer would be a benefit with their intake kit & they basically said "no comment".
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Something doesnt seem right to me.You gained 40rwhp from headers and a spacer???? The most ive seen from headers is about 25rwhp,hard to believe a spacer could add much of anything,let alone 15rwhp.Im not trying to flame,just havent seen anyone get anywhere near those numbers for what you did.Im sure temps and variables are partially at hand.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Something doesnt seem right to me.You gained 40rwhp from headers and a spacer???? The most ive seen from headers is about 25rwhp,hard to believe a spacer could add much of anything,let alone 15rwhp.Im not trying to flame,just havent seen anyone get anywhere near those numbers for what you did.Im sure temps and variables are partially at hand.


379 with no tune? I'm 371 w/tune/headers/ghl/stinger...

Hmmmmm....

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by canyon vette
Forum vendors here L.A.P.D. installed Kooks headers & a Vararam intake spacer on my C6 Z51 6sp. yesterday. The car already has K&N air filters & the poormans magnaflow muffler mod. This car ROCKS now! Before pull was Max power = 340.12 Max Tourque = 334.63 After was Max power = 379.32 & Max Tourque = 381.32 ! Im sooooo... happy, this is with no ECM tuning yet! Bob Scheer
That's Awesome!!! Kudos to LAPD They've installed several mods on my car and their workmanship has been outstanding!!!

BTW Shawn: Optima battery is working great, and expect me to stop by tomorrow for the Vararam spacer.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Guys,

This C6 is exceptionally strong. We have seen a vast range of dyno numbers on many C6s with various mods. This is the highest C6 we have seen on the dyno with these mods. These numbers are real. I witnessed the dyno numbers in person myself and all I can say is they are for real. NO TRICKS AND NO BS!!! Trust me on this. I guess the worksmanship does make a difference.

I am sure canyon vette can feel the SOTP difference and can verify that the numbers are accurate.

AND NO, OUR DYNO DOES NOT READ HIGH! We verified with dynojet that our dyno is dead on the money.

Brabus2,

See ya tomorrow.

The spacer does work on the C6. Every C6 owner we have installed one for has said that they do feel the difference.

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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How bout some dyno pulls with and without spacer? Should be easy to do. No other mods. Not trying to flame either... you may make a believer, and customer, outta me.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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I read on some post about the spacer supposedly giving 5 or so hp ,but that was on one car.Reality is 5 hp cannot be felt at all in my experience of modding over 10 cars.It takes at least 10rwhp to actually feel a true difference.Im still scratching my head wondering how anyone could really gain 40 rwhp from headers and a spacer.Something just doesnt add up.Ive never seen any car of any type gain that much from that mod.I hope you guys understand why we are finding it hard to believe.I have a tune ,bullets and stinger and have 357rwhp with my 6 spd.If I could add headers and a spacer and be around 400wrhp that would be the best xmas present ever,but that wont be happening.I see many guys on here with headers,tune and cam in the low 400s.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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How bout some dyno pulls with and without spacer? Should be easy to do. No other mods. Not trying to flame either... you may make a believer, and customer, outta me.
Shawn, Your welcome to post my dyno #s for these Vette Brothers! Ask Allen,your dyno guy for the before spacer pull. As I recall I think w/out spacer was about 371.?? max h.p. . No ! Bob
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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Shawn, Your welcome to post my dyno #s for these Vette Brothers! Ask Allen,your dyno guy for the before spacer pull. As I recall I think w/out spacer was about 371.?? max h.p. . No ! Bob
You must have gotten the one or two "winners" that slip out of Bowling Green. Sorry to be a "Doubting Thomas", but I've seen enough bone-stock C6 pulls (anywhere from high 320's to low 330's), and various intake & exhaust mod'd + tuned (myself included) to be somewhat bewildered at the high #'s you're pulling.

No offense to you & Shawn - this is just not the average for the dozens of mod'd C6's where dyno #'s have been posted.

Rick
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by billywallstreet73
Something doesnt seem right to me.You gained 40rwhp from headers and a spacer???? The most ive seen from headers is about 25rwhp,hard to believe a spacer could add much of anything,let alone 15rwhp.Im not trying to flame,just havent seen anyone get anywhere near those numbers for what you did.Im sure temps and variables are partially at hand.
Read his post, he already had a catback and K&N filters. With the same catback,Dynamaxx Headers and the Lingenfelter CAI I got 378.6HP and 370.5TQ. Also no tune.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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I was under the impression that he only added the headers and spacer to gain the 40 rwhp.I guess if he added the cold air induction also that it could be more believable to me.The original post looked to me like he said the spacer and not the whole cai with the spacer.Figure 20 to 25 for the headers,10 to 15 for the cai and maybe 5 for the spacer.You definitely have a very strong car from the ordinary.Im betting that your cars A/f is pretty good right out of the box compared to most of us.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Guys,

The dyno numbers BEFORE the spacer were 371 rwhp. We installed the spacer right on the dyno and ran it again and it put down an impressive almost 380 rwhp.

When we tested out JUST the spacer on our C6, we only got 6 rwhp and 9 rwtq increase on the dyno. canyon vette achieved more power on his C6 than we did. canyon vette's list of mods are as follows:

K&N panel replacement filters, Vararam throttle body spacer, Kooks headers with high flow cats and Magnaflow mufflers.

After installing the spacer on our C6, I felt that the car felt like it picked up some torque and the engine idle smoothed out getting rid of the slight flutter it had from the factory. Our C6 was never tuned.

Our C6 bone stock with less than 100 miles on it put down 350 rwhp on the dyno and once we had about 1100 miles on our C6 it put down 356 rwhp BONE STOCK!!!! There are some out there! The rest of the C6s we have seen have ranged from 320-345 rwhp bone stock.

Shawn

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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by L.A.P.D.
Guys,

The dyno numbers BEFORE the spacer were 371 rwhp. We installed the spacer right on the dyno and ran it again and it put down an impressive almost 380 rwhp.

When we tested out JUST the spacer on our C6, we only got 6 rwhp and 9 rwtq increase on the dyno. canyon vette achieved more power on his C6 than we did. canyon vette's list of mods are as follows:

K&N panel replacement filters, Vararam throttle body spacer, Kooks headers with high flow cats and Magnaflow mufflers.

After installing the spacer on our C6, I felt that the car felt like it picked up some torque and the engine idle smoothed out getting rid of the slight flutter it had from the factory. Our C6 was never tuned.

Our C6 bone stock with less than 100 miles on it put down 350 rwhp on the dyno and once we had about 1100 miles on our C6 it put down 356 rwhp BONE STOCK!!!! There are some out there! The rest of the C6s we have seen have ranged from 320-345 rwhp bone stock.

Shawn

It's absolutely CRIMINAL that there is such a HP variation on bone-stock C6's. 5-10HP is to be expected, 20-30 means someone isn't doing their job right.

Didn't mean anything disparaging Shawn. For the record, Shawn went above & beyond the call in my wheel purchase (which I'll take photo's of, when a nice day & a clean car coincide...).

Rick
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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How much for the spacer and whats involved in install? I could use some cheap hp.I will post a before and after dyno here in fl.Send me a pm if you cant tell the price here.
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Lingenfelter said this might not work well with their intake kit; what do you think Shawn?

It's $60 Billy.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Will the spacer work with my stinger intake? If so,for 60 bucks,Ill give it a try.
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