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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Lest say you have 2k to spend (Parts & Labor). Which one of these would you do?

1. - 100 Shot, WET NOS (romote bottle opener, warmer, saftey switches, purges , the whole nine yeards.)
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2. - Good Comp Cam with New springs and Gaskets

Which would give me better power, now I know that the Cam is constant power, but Nitros is a rush but expensive when you are using it alot.

How much power could I expect to see from a good cam job? Is it worth it without doing the heads?

Here is my current set up:

2005 C6 Z51 6 speed
Blackwing Air Intake
B&B Bullets
Kooks Long Tube Headers
Kooks "X" Pipe wit High Flow Cats
Ron Zimmer Tune (Coming Soon, waiting until I do one of the above)
B&M Ripper Shifter (Being Put On This Week)

Thanks for the advice

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AzVette2005
Guys

Lest say you have 2k to spend (Parts & Labor). Which one of these would you do?

1. - 100 Shot, WET NOS (romote bottle opener, warmer, saftey switches, purges , the whole nine yeards.)
or
2. - Good Comp Cam with New springs and Gaskets

Which would give me better power, now I know that the Cam is constant power, but Nitros is a rush but expensive when you are using it alot.

How much power could I expect to see from a good cam job? Is it worth it without doing the heads?

Here is my current set up:

2005 C6 Z51 6 speed
Blackwing Air Intake
B&B Bullets
Kooks Long Tube Headers
Kooks "X" Pipe wit High Flow Cats
Ron Zimmer Tune (Coming Soon, waiting until I do one of the above)
B&M Ripper Shifter (Being Put On This Week)

Thanks for the advice

Dude...only you can answer this question brother. The cam,...is the way "I" would go,..just because it is power, that is always there. It will make your car hard to beat,...as long as you go with the right cam,...and not a mild one.

You can ALWAYS add the bottle. The nitrous setup, will give you the most power, no doubt but,...the cam will add power too. Not to mention,..the lopey idle...
I would go cam and valve train. Nitrous later.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Good point! Keep your opinions coming everyone.. What woudl you personally do or have done already with results..

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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I did the cam install and prior to having my heads done I dyno'd at 420 rwhp and 390 rwtq.

That was with Kooks and Magnaflows
Tuning from Zimmer
160 stat
comp cam 224/230 581/591 114

I don't care about nitrous.........I prefer aspiration
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo
I did the cam install and prior to having my heads done I dyno'd at 420 rwhp and 390 rwtq.

That was with Kooks and Magnaflows
Tuning from Zimmer
160 stat
comp cam 224/230 581/591 114

I don't care about nitrous.........I prefer aspiration
Those are some good numbers. These were with Cam and the few other mods listed above right? What were your numbers with the New Heads?

Do you take it to the track, and if so what kind of numbers does this set up provide?

Also - what it run you in installation on the cam?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo
I did the cam install and prior to having my heads done I dyno'd at 420 rwhp and 390 rwtq.

That was with Kooks and Magnaflows
Tuning from Zimmer
160 stat
comp cam 224/230 581/591 114

I don't care about nitrous.........I prefer aspiration
Did you change the cam only or did you swap the spring, rod and retainer?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gripforce-c6
Did you change the cam only or did you swap the spring, rod and retainer?

If you go with a cam, anything larger then stock..you need to change the valvetrain.

Factory beehives,..cant handle alot of lift.

Gonna have to go with DUAL SPRINGS
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AzVette2005
Those are some good numbers. These were with Cam and the few other mods listed above right? What were your numbers with the New Heads?

Do you take it to the track, and if so what kind of numbers does this set up provide?

Also - what it run you in installation on the cam?
Close to 460 after heads

I don't go to the track.......just street

$2200 with Comps 921 springs
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gripforce-c6
Did you change the cam only or did you swap the spring, rod and retainer?
I did Comps 921's and yes on the rods and retainers.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Fredo and my car are the same down to the color, except he's doing head work before me.I'm making 420 RWHP,and next month will put a FAST intake on at A&A corvettes. He also did my cam and springs. Fredo and I never have to stop and fill the bottle. Yea, you can make a boat load of power with nitros, but I personaly feel you give up some life of that motor.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
Fredo and my car are the same down to the color, except he's doing head work before me.I'm making 420 RWHP,and next month will put a FAST intake on at A&A corvettes. He also did my cam and springs. Fredo and I never have to stop and fill the bottle. Yea, you can make a boat load of power with nitros, but I personaly feel you give up some life of that motor.
My .02 cents

andreas g.

What other Mods do you have other than a cam and springs? 420 RWHP is impressive! Very nice....
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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I guess I am the loner here. I say Nitrous without a doubt

Yes a cam creates power all the time, it also is harder on valvetrain and other parts all the time.

The cam makes the car sound mean from the rear and like a sewing machine in the front.

The cam requires you to open the engine up and will require you to do it twice should you want to go back to stock (alot of corvette buyers will not touch a cammed car). Also just pray that you do not have any issue with the install and develop an oil leak or break a spring ( I did both and I had all new seals and gaskets and new double springs)

A 100 shot gives you a solid 100 RWHP and 130-150 RWTQ on demand and can be removed in 45 minutes when it is time to trade or sell. I gained .3-.4 with the cam (226/226 .581 114LSA Comp) and gained a full second with the nitrous. Give me the Nitrous brother.

BTW if nitrous is not used in excess and you get tuned properly it WILL NOT cut down engine life. It cools and allows for better combustion of fuel. Check out the Nitrous thread on LS1 tech if you need to get educated on what Nitrous REALLY DOES.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140389

Not saying my way is the only way, just making my case. Dont hate me. LOL

LG/Kooks LTs+FAST 90mm intake+LPE air box-160 stat+100 shot NX= 500RWHP and it can all be taken off in an afternoon

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Go with the cam and headers. I went with a procharger and magnaflow exhaust and it's a silent and deadly combo (503 RWHP). BUT you can't really hear it like you do a cam and headers setup.
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Go with the cam and headers. I went with a procharger and magnaflow exhaust and it's a silent and deadly combo (503 RWHP). BUT you can't really hear it like you do a cam and headers setup.
You think people cant tell when a vette has an SC on it? That whine kind of gives it away doesnt it. If you are going for sound then get some B & B bullets. If you want to be fast put the juice on it
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
Fredo and my car are the same down to the color, except he's doing head work before me.I'm making 420 RWHP,and next month will put a FAST intake on at A&A corvettes. He also did my cam and springs. Fredo and I never have to stop and fill the bottle. Yea, you can make a boat load of power with nitros, but I personaly feel you give up some life of that motor.
My .02 cents

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Keep the opinions coming! This is great info....
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BTW you can get a Nitrous system including digital window switch, GEN X2 kit, and TPS for $1000 and get it installed for $350. Get some headers with the rest of the money. You already have a great nitrous cam in the car now.

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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I went with the spray, I agree, if installed and tuned correctly you should not have any problems. Its all a matter of preference, **** you can blow something running with the spray and have the same results running all motor. If you gonna start to do mods on your car you doing them for a reason, and that reason is to get more power out of that engine so that the car can run like hell! Goodluck with whatever decision you make
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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DO it all!!!

throw in the pro-charger too!!!!



















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