No Jim,

The airbridge developed a leak in 2003... As to why you credited me 299.00 - you felt bad for what happened and so you credited me $ back for my troubles... I will look into the email later this weekend, not today. All of our dealings have been archived on an email server. It was not the airbridge that led to the incident but rather the excessive strain the TRIC semi-sinusoidal metal intake track placed on the MAF connection. The leaking bridge was messing up AF and causing minor hesitation two years later. There was never any replacement bridge or other part sent out to me, ever... The only replacament part ever sent out was a new air filter and I trust that wasn't worth 299.00. The enitire kit cost back then was ~700+ USD for the TRIC + CF airbridge. I think my memory resolution surrounding this incident is a bit higher considering I went through it...

Bob

 

Pleases don't attack, but enough "he said - he said." Why don't you guys just take this off-line and resolve your differences? Once the resolution has occurred, then post the findings of your discussion.

The original post was comparing Halltech to Lingenfelder. It has really strayed off course.

 

Here is a pic from under my car looking up at the filter. It has been on the car for several months. It has also been thru several rain storms.




<<<< -------------- Front of Car

As you can see the filter is not covered with dirt, mud or other things but, as you can see leafs and paper do get into this cavity and for your car's sake, cleaning this area should be part of you regular car cleaning whther or not you have a "Bottom Feeder" intake

I agree with Ed@lingenfelter, Hydrolock is a concern for any filter exposed to the outside. I think prudence and common sense needs to be used with any performance option but, It appears all the major players (LPE, Callaway, VaraRam and Breathless) have chosen the same design for thier products. I do not think this was an accident.

Anyway tought you guys would like to see the opening from the bottom and how the filter had faired after several months of use.

 

That's your best course of action. Stock is best when you consider that the intake being questioned here is the TRIC bottom breather taken off the market 5 years ago.

Bob, the $299 refund then was given back not for a defect in the bridge, but something about our 6AL4V Titanium TRIC? The cost of the system, included $299 for the carbon fiber Cobra bridge. Anyway, you've made your point.

The TRIC is still on many cars, after 5 years, and has the alltime quickest and fastest record set by Ranger.

I think I have exhausted the forums goodwill allowing me to respond to these questions. As I stated, email me offline, and if someone has a refund coming, I will take care of it immediately. I just can't imagine why they haven't called or written sooner.

Jim

 

Jim, you are either unintentaionally or intentionally confusing the issues here... The cracked CF airbridge was not an issue back in 2001, my previous posts highlight what took place, a cracked CF airbridge was not the source of trouble.... The bridge developed a subsequent crack which led to some hesitation and surging issues. When I called on this latter issue, over the phone you essentially blew me off.

I have not waited 5 years to publish this - I've posted before albeit infrequently about this topic. I think, as a scientist and previously trained engineer, that your previous design using the "S" shaped TRIC system was flawed b/c the design did not permit much clearance between the underside of the shroud and the filter. As such, not only did the shoud bend, but it placed a great deal of strain on the intake system and this could lead to uncoupling. This system is no longer used to my understanding and so I suspect these issues would never again take place.

Let's get something clear Jim, your partial refund was not "shut-up" money as far as I was ever concerned nor was it in any way paid back with the understanding that I would send part of my intake back to you... As I iterated before, I NEVER recieved a replacement airbridge or TRIC, just an air filter. Frankly it was only after you blew me off on the phone on the second issue, two years later, that I started posting anything that might be construed as negative...

Look, I'm sorry for bringing this up again, I probably should not have as I should have known this crap always ensues... I'm not here to smear you Jim, FWIW your products always looked "cool" (hence the reason I still have my CF airbridge) and it seems like I'm the outlier as most people seem happy with your products... I'm done sprinkling salt into old wounds, I'm sorry to have reopened this one, it won't happen again OK?

I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving Jim,

Bob

 

This is typical of threads involving intakes.

I agree that it is truely unfortunate that issues of who paid what to whom, cannot be taken offline. That has always been the nature of forums. If you do business here, be prepared for abuse, is my motto.

The truth is, that some individuals have hidden agendas, or work for the competition. Somtimes there are legitimate complaints, but to post them here first, without calling or emailing the vendor, smacks of a vendeta.

Posting complaints 5 years later, where archives need to be opened to find out who said what, is totally unreasonable, and moot, since the intake in question, is long gone. If anything, it showed how responsive we were to this individuals issues at the time, not the contrary. Giving someone a full refund on a product where no breakage or return has been received must be unprecidented in the retail world. Show me another company in the country that will do that, just to keep someone happy.

These posts are not hurting Halltech sales at all. We haven't made a bottom breather in 5 years, but the companies that do are being hurt by this type of stuff. Way too much is made of hydrolock in my opinion, but if folks want to bash the TRIC over and over again, be my guest.

As soon as the party that accused us of charging their card and not shipping identifies who they are by email, we'll report back.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving

 

Your telling us that you went on with the install knowing that it didn't fit right and then a couple of years later something breaks and your then concerned with warranty. Also if memory serves me this started as a comparitive analysis of Intakes on C6's.

 

That’s what I’ve been thinking.

There are a number of violations of Forum rules/guidelines in this thread:

Unresolved disputes:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1&forum_id=109

Hijacking:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...9&forum_id=109

Commercial posting:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...8&forum_id=109

Some of the folks involved are recidivists. If these issues continue to plague the Forum, the only recourse may be:

Service denied:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...3&forum_id=109

I believe some of us could benefit from stepping away from the computer and spending some time in Thanksgiving with friends and family.