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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Default Intake-Haltech or Lingenfelter?

Im going to be purchasing an intake relatively soon.

From reading around I've come to the conclusion that the LG intake is better for performance than the Haltech.

I have only 1 concern and that is possible water damage. I live in South FL so not driving the car in heavy rain is not an option. It can be sunny one minute, torrential downpour, and sunny again all within 15 mins.

I obviously will not be trying to traverse any lakes but will driving in rain cause damage with either one?

Thoughts...advice etc...?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I just went thru the same search and concluded that the Halltech would be best for me. I also did not want to cut the shroud to do the Lingenfelder. Haltech just drops in the original location.

Good luck making your decision.

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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I bought the LPE intake, but decided to return it once I read the installation instructions. It was just too invasive for me, lots of disassembly and permanent modifications to the shroud are required. Definitely not something I could swap back to stock quickly if the car has to go back for warranty work. I'll probably go with the Halltech next, I liked the one I had on my C5.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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You guys are paranoid. There is about 1.5 feet from ground to intake, then you woulod have to submerge it , otherwise the air pressure would take air from the top of the filter and not have enough to suck water up against gravity. hydro-lock is very common on rice. They use small cone filters hanging very low to the ground usually about 6 inches.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Aha, was not aware that cutting was required to install the LPE.

That made my decision pretty simple. Haltech it is.

Besides, whats that extra 5hp or whatever the LPE gives on a 400 HP car.

On that same note...whats an extra 10-15?

Oh well, its only $400 heh.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stabori
You guys are paranoid. There is about 1.5 feet from ground to intake, then you woulod have to submerge it , otherwise the air pressure would take air from the top of the filter and not have enough to suck water up against gravity. hydro-lock is very common on rice. They use small cone filters hanging very low to the ground usually about 6 inches.


I keep hearing about H2O injestion-has anyone seen this? I don't believe it can happen unless you drive through deep water. If you have experienced hydrolock please tell us about.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Several have had it happen. Not at all common but it can happen. I suspect one of those people (JMMAN) will see this thread and post on it. He usually does.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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I tried both Halltech (without the CAI option) and LPE intakes on my C6 MN6 Z51. On a dyno, LPE had slightly more HP/TQ numbers but the LPE DID have more oomphh in the SOTP feel. Although I drove several times in heavy rains but I didn't have any problems.
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I chose the LPE and could not be happier. I'm not worried about the shroud...You can buy a new one for @ $100. As far as warranty work, If my dealer refused warranty work because of the LPE airbox I would go to a different dealer.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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I installed the Halltech Stinger and the car seems to run better, quicker and smoother accelerations. I can't really explain it, it just runs better.

Took about 10 minutes to install and so far, I can't be more pleased.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crabman
Several have had it happen. Not at all common but it can happen. I suspect one of those people (JMMAN) will see this thread and post on it. He usually does.
Stock vs. Halltech and tune. I've seen a statement of SOTP between the Halltech and LPE, if you can feel that difference you are one very special person or are suffering from something that there are med's for. Here is a thread by A&A testing both Halltech and LPE: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...4&forum_id=101

Hydro lock, you bet it's real. It's not the downpour or the deep puddle it's like the early arguments of wearing or not wearing seat belts. The condition that got me was slow speed in traffic. The traffic doesn't give you the luxury of stopping and going around the puddle. The wake from the front wheels cause an elevation of that shallow looking puddle to a level that covered the filter. On coming traffic can also cause this. If you think it won’t happen, well your just kidding yourself into thinking you have everything under control. I would ask the suppliers of the open shroud crowd it they will replace your motor if you have hydro lock. By the way it’s around 11.5K and change. Also it should not be a warranty issue or in fact an insurance issue. You altered it you live with it, don't cause everyone’s premiums to be affected.


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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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Stay away from Halltech under any circumstances.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EHS
Stay away from Halltech under any circumstances.

can you back that up please i am interested
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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I actually bought a Halltech, and returned it before installing it. The filter looked so cheap I could see my hand throught it, and I just wanted better filtration than that. My friend bought the LPE, and he does not like the fact that it acts like a vacuum of the road. He checks it weekly and has wrappers and rocks and stuff in there all the time, and the filter gets really dirty all the time. My dealer told me that one guy hydrolocked his motor with one of the ram air intakes, even with it off the ground like almost 2 feet, due to being in traffic with flooded roads, a truck kicked up a wave and the intake sucked up the water when the wave hit the car. This is why I went with a simply K&N and just bolted it on. More power 10hp at the wheels accross the board, the car feels better, and you can go like 25,000 miles between cleaning since it is hidden up on the radiator cover.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rmitchell242
can you back that up please i am interested

Yep, whats the deal?
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EHS
Stay away from Halltech under any circumstances.

This post is worthless without pics!

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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by crabman
Yep, whats the deal?
I don't know if Halltech is still a supporting vendor for this site or not, so I am not going to get into it. Older members will know what I'm talking about, problems with warranties, refunds, quality, performance claims, etc., and I have had personal experience with Jim on some of this (e.g., charges for items never shipped). Jimman above (member since 1999) alludes to it in his post above.

Here's a url worth reading: http://www.highspeeddriving.com/phpb...ic.php?t=17801

And a post from Jim himself titled "Why is Jim Hall treated like a jerk?" -- read between the lines: http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17248
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Originally Posted by EHS
I don't know if Halltech is still a supporting vendor for this site or not, so I am not going to get into it. Older members will know what I'm talking about, problems with warranties, refunds, quality, performance claims, etc., and I have had personal experience with Jim on some of this (e.g., charges for items never shipped). Jimman above (member since 1999) alludes to it in his post above.

Here's a url worth reading: http://www.highspeeddriving.com/phpb...ic.php?t=17801

And a post from Jim himself titled "Why is Jim Hall treated like a jerk?" -- read between the lines: http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17248
The Hydro lock issue has been corrected with this system and also the previous sidewinder for C5's. His compitition has ignored that early endevor, history repeats itself. Had no issues with warrenty or quality or performance claims. When the hydro lock issue rose they changed the design to prevent it. I don't want to get into pissen match here, fore I've been warned to back off on these issues. All I will say is that if you open that filter to the outside world your on your own.
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Originally Posted by EHS
I don't know if Halltech is still a supporting vendor for this site or not, so I am not going to get into it. Older members will know what I'm talking about, problems with warranties, refunds, quality, performance claims, etc., and I have had personal experience with Jim on some of this (e.g., charges for items never shipped). Jimman above (member since 1999) alludes to it in his post above.

Here's a url worth reading: http://www.highspeeddriving.com/phpb...ic.php?t=17801

And a post from Jim himself titled "Why is Jim Hall treated like a jerk?" -- read between the lines: http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17248
EHS, you need to take this witch hunt elsewhere. This is the C6 forum, and I don't know of one person that's had an issue with the Halltech C6 system (and I've been looking). Linking to ancient history threads from 2002 isn't going to help anyone.
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