Do you have to order a C6 from Lingenfelter, or do you send your C6 to them and have the work done?

 

Can't order from them. You can have it dropped shipped from your favorite dealer for about $300-500 to a dealer by them and LPE will pick it up for you and do the work. Or you can just send/drive it to their shop. If you have it shipped back to your home, and you live out of out state (Indiana), you don't have to pay tax on their work!

I'm having mine shipped to them next week. Taxes would have cost approximately $600, shipping back home will be $800. A no brainer for me to ship as opposed to fly over and pick up/drive home. Jeff

 

Which package are you getting? Also, how does it affect the warranty?

 

I'm getting their 500hp package with a 2 year warranty that covers all the work and parts they install. Ligenfelter has authorized service reps all over the country that you can take it to. As far as factory warrenty being effected, it won't be unless Chevy can show that the mods caused or effected the problem, also depends on the dealer on how liberal they are in doing warrenty work on a car that's been modded. For example, if I break a rod do to having 500hp, I don't think Chevy is going to cover that. With that being said, these engines and trans are pretty darn strong and have been holding up to LPE's packages just fine. But with that being said, I went with the 500hp option because the mods are not as obvious as with some of their other packages, like the supercharger.

 

They do great work and I have been very happy with my set up.

 

Actually we can do it either way. If you have a C6 already, simply ship it to us, but if you need help finding one, we work with several dealers and can usually help you find a good deal.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me directly.

epotter@lingenfelter.com

Thanks,
Ed

 

This refers back to the Moss-Mag act and while this is pretty much the language in reality its meaningless at the point of denial. Possession is 9/10s of the law. You are not in possession of your warranty. Your dealer as GMs representative is in posssession of your warranty. If they decide they dont want to warranty a repair and blame it on your mods your screwed. You can spout the Moss-Mag act all day long and it doesnt matter. You will either come out of pocket or your car will stay broke till you reach the end of the process. This varies by state and your going to need an attorney at least for consulting if not outright hiring one. You may not resolve the issue for months. The good news is once you do finally have your day in court (assuming it goes that far) the Moss-Mag act is real and they do have to prove that a mod caused or contributed to the failure. Im not saying this to scare you off of anything. I still do mods much the same as I ever did and have only had a problem once. This is just a heads up in case you were not aware of the reality of the situation when your standing at the dealer service counter and have been told that your being denied a warranty repair.

 

Over time from forum posts it appears that relationships and accessbility matter most. If you have a good dealer and/or dealer rep, that will get you farther than just about anything else. However, on big ticket items (e.g., fried motor), then GM may well have an area rep come in to oversee things.

 

I was just notified by Ed at Lingenfelter that my toy had finished its dyno runs after undergoing the 403 cid engine upgrade and that I will have it back shortly which is good news.

The better news is that it turned 470 RWHP and 468 RWHP with LG 32" Long Tubes, Hi-Flo cats, and Corsa Sports.

It also comes with a two warranty!

 

I have had some warranty work done (non engine work) even though my C-6 was heavily modded........until I fried the engine (long story) I wouldn't even ask my service tech to consider bogus warranty work. My stroker should be done next week.

If you want to play, you might have to pay.

 

I completely agree. The reason I mention a fried motor is b/c that happened to my STOCK c4. My oil pressure went to zero, but the dealer said it was likely not a problem and to drive it in. I asked a few times, and he said no worries, if it starts to tick just pull over and call us. I drove it 17 miles like that, only to learn later that the oil pump had failed. So, a zone rep was called in, and they gave me a new motor.

When it came time to decide on modding the c5, the very first thing I explored was the worst case scenario cost if I killed the entire engine. I have heard of others that pull off major mods and then take the car in expecting it to be fixed for damage. Not my cup of tea.

 

That is some sweet numbers (I take it the 468 was supposed to mean torque, not horsepower).

 

Great Numbers

LPE got 465/456 out of my c5 with a Maggie, LT's etc - you beat that NA!! By the way - hang on tight the first time you open it up

 

If I were going to mod my car the folks at LPE or one of the other big name tuners would do it. A 2 year warranty is much better than nothing

And as far as the Magnussen Moss Act, well, proceed at your own risk.

The Magnussen Moss Act gives you an avenue to sue, should your warranty claim be denied.

First you'll have to retain a lawyer. He will likely want paid, at least part of his fee up front and will incur expenses which he will pass on to you along the way. Research will have to be done, witnesses deposed and experts obtained and paid, to testify on your behalf.

Unless he is charging you a flat rate, then he is charging you for every telephone conversation, every face to face meeting, as well as his time and travel spent interviewing whomever he needs to interview on your behalf. Whatever articles he needs to read to bolster your case is on your dime..

The cost of all that can be more than what it would cost to go ahead and fix your own car. And even after all of that, you still might lose your case.

I would not underestimate GM's, or any other auto manufacturer's ability to prove a causal and effect relationship between most common mods and subsequent damage.

Especially with the way the cars of today are so precisely engineered and the role that computerization plays in today's vehicles.

They have engineers, and attorneys on their payroll and/or in their legal department for just such occasions. And they are not amateurs at this sort of thing.

I doubt they lose more of these type cases than they win.

The case could drag on for months and wear you down financially and emotionally. And for what?????

Your lawyer is going to get paid whether you win or lose.

Bottom line, don't mod it unless you are prepared to fix it out of pocket.

 

Very good post........ "You should not play unless you can afford to Pay"