Oil Analysis
Melting Slicks
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From: Northern CA
Originally Posted by black05c6z51
how much now one has mentioned the price for this service
. It was about $20 last time I used it.
Last edited by xs650; Apr 5, 2006 at 04:38 PM.
Racer
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From: Bridgewater New Jersey
Use to judge oil
I've used it when figuring out how long the oil I use remains functional. The C6 oil wear algoritm is not valid when using extended drain oils, even Mobil 1 15K oil. So, it's the only way to know how many times I need to hit the reset button before really having to change the oil. I usually hit the oil mfg reccomended change time before the oil wears out. 25k or 1yr.
Heel & Toe
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Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
I still don't see the point. Except people are willing to spend money on anything 
Is a sloppy engine build coverend under warranty?
BTW, I'll analyze anyones washer fluid for $19.99
Is a sloppy engine build coverend under warranty?
BTW, I'll analyze anyones washer fluid for $19.99
Now let me make sure I understand what's going on here. I have 20,000 on the Vette so I decide to have the oil analyzed. The report isn't good so I take it into the dealership and demand a new engine.
They can't talk to me about my new engine because they can't quit laughing. Is that what this is? A BIG JOKE!
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by CYA-Vett
I still don't see the point. Except people are willing to spend money on anything
Is a sloppy engine build coverend under warranty?
BTW, I'll analyze anyones washer fluid for $19.99
Is a sloppy engine build coverend under warranty?
BTW, I'll analyze anyones washer fluid for $19.99
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by xs650
I check it about once a year. HIgh silicon once the engine has cleansed itself build residue is an indication of an intake system leak. I found a small one on my C4 that way.
With your background, I expect you know it, but for the others, If the copper and iron are rising along with the silicon, then they are probably rising because of an air leak in the intake system or a poor air filter.
With your background, I expect you know it, but for the others, If the copper and iron are rising along with the silicon, then they are probably rising because of an air leak in the intake system or a poor air filter.
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '13
One year I lost most of the gears in the automatic transmission of my Camaro when i was on a long and important road trip. GM fixed the tranny under warranty but it ruined the trip and wasted a fair amount of my money.
After that, I've had Blackstone do an analysis of my engine oil and trans fluid every Spring before starting my summer fun. That doesn't guarantee that I'll get advance warning of problems but it certainly ups the odds in my favor.
After that, I've had Blackstone do an analysis of my engine oil and trans fluid every Spring before starting my summer fun. That doesn't guarantee that I'll get advance warning of problems but it certainly ups the odds in my favor.
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
One year I lost most of the gears in the automatic transmission of my Camaro when i was on a long and important road trip. GM fixed the tranny under warranty but it ruined the trip and wasted a fair amount of my money.
After that, I've had Blackstone do an analysis of my engine oil and trans fluid every Spring before starting my summer fun. That doesn't guarantee that I'll get advance warning of problems but it certainly ups the odds in my favor.
After that, I've had Blackstone do an analysis of my engine oil and trans fluid every Spring before starting my summer fun. That doesn't guarantee that I'll get advance warning of problems but it certainly ups the odds in my favor.
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '13
Well, first thing I'd do is post the numbers here and see what the experts say!
After that, I'd make my decisions based on the idea that instead of a 1% chance that the car would take a dump on me, it was now a 50% (or whatever number) chance.
Since the car will be under warranty for a long time (GMPP extended warranty), I know they won't try to fix anything based on only oil analysis. But I might just start flogging it so it would break sooner and get fixed sooner.
After that, I'd make my decisions based on the idea that instead of a 1% chance that the car would take a dump on me, it was now a 50% (or whatever number) chance.
Since the car will be under warranty for a long time (GMPP extended warranty), I know they won't try to fix anything based on only oil analysis. But I might just start flogging it so it would break sooner and get fixed sooner.
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Le Mans Master
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From: North Western Connecticut
Originally Posted by PJinNJ
I've used it when figuring out how long the oil I use remains functional. The C6 oil wear algoritm is not valid when using extended drain oils, even Mobil 1 15K oil. So, it's the only way to know how many times I need to hit the reset button before really having to change the oil. I usually hit the oil mfg reccomended change time before the oil wears out. 25k or 1yr.
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Well, first thing I'd do is post the numbers here and see what the experts say!
After that, I'd make my decisions based on the idea that instead of a 1% chance that the car would take a dump on me, it was now a 50% (or whatever number) chance.
Since the car will be under warranty for a long time (GMPP extended warranty), I know they won't try to fix anything based on only oil analysis. But I might just start flogging it so it would break sooner and get fixed sooner.
After that, I'd make my decisions based on the idea that instead of a 1% chance that the car would take a dump on me, it was now a 50% (or whatever number) chance.
Since the car will be under warranty for a long time (GMPP extended warranty), I know they won't try to fix anything based on only oil analysis. But I might just start flogging it so it would break sooner and get fixed sooner.
Le Mans Master
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From: Northern NJ
I always do an oil analysis on high performance cars just to see if there is any antifreeze in the oil. The reason is obvious, keeps an eye on head gaskets. The antifreeze gets into the oil long before you detect the leak yourself.
FYI: (not trying to be a wise guy here, just post some info)
Silicon="tetravalent nonmetallic element that occurs combined as the most abundant element next to oxygen in the earth's crust and is used especially in alloys"<------THE REASON IT GETS IN YOUR OIL.
Silicone= "Any of a group of semi-inorganic polymers based on the structural unit R2SiO, where R is an organic group, characterized by wide-range thermal stability, high lubricity, extreme water repellence, and physiological inertness and used in adhesives, lubricants, protective coatings, paints, electrical insulation, synthetic rubber, and prosthetic replacements for body parts."
FYI: (not trying to be a wise guy here, just post some info)
Silicon="tetravalent nonmetallic element that occurs combined as the most abundant element next to oxygen in the earth's crust and is used especially in alloys"<------THE REASON IT GETS IN YOUR OIL.
Silicone= "Any of a group of semi-inorganic polymers based on the structural unit R2SiO, where R is an organic group, characterized by wide-range thermal stability, high lubricity, extreme water repellence, and physiological inertness and used in adhesives, lubricants, protective coatings, paints, electrical insulation, synthetic rubber, and prosthetic replacements for body parts."
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by mvcrash
I always do an oil analysis on high performance cars just to see if there is any antifreeze in the oil. The reason is obvious, keeps an eye on head gaskets. The antifreeze gets into the oil long before you detect the leak yourself.
FYI: (not trying to be a wise guy here, just post some info)
Silicon="tetravalent nonmetallic element that occurs combined as the most abundant element next to oxygen in the earth's crust and is used especially in alloys"<------THE REASON IT GETS IN YOUR OIL.
Silicone= "Any of a group of semi-inorganic polymers based on the structural unit R2SiO, where R is an organic group, characterized by wide-range thermal stability, high lubricity, extreme water repellence, and physiological inertness and used in adhesives, lubricants, protective coatings, paints, electrical insulation, synthetic rubber, and prosthetic replacements for body parts."
FYI: (not trying to be a wise guy here, just post some info)
Silicon="tetravalent nonmetallic element that occurs combined as the most abundant element next to oxygen in the earth's crust and is used especially in alloys"<------THE REASON IT GETS IN YOUR OIL.
Silicone= "Any of a group of semi-inorganic polymers based on the structural unit R2SiO, where R is an organic group, characterized by wide-range thermal stability, high lubricity, extreme water repellence, and physiological inertness and used in adhesives, lubricants, protective coatings, paints, electrical insulation, synthetic rubber, and prosthetic replacements for body parts."
Le Mans Master
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From: Northern NJ
Originally Posted by glennhl
I've had high performance cars for 35 years and have never had a head gasket go bad.
Last edited by mvcrash; Apr 10, 2006 at 12:06 PM.
after 25 years of fleet maintence experience, it is well worth getting your oil sampled. especially after the warranty goes out.............crancky
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by catbert
Never had a GTO huh!
I just get a kick from everyone spending their hard earned money on oil analysis. It will catch a bad head gasket, that was the best argument I've heard yet, but seeing high copper or iron is not going to force very many people to actually tear down the engine, it's just going to make them worry!
Melting Slicks
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From: Pinellas Park Florida
Head gasket blown in a 350 chevy & 3.8V6-just luck of the draw!
I could see checking the oil once a year or so, but also the anti-freeze too as sometimes a blown headgasket shows up as oil in the anti-freeze. Of course, the dealership will laugh at the test results as the basis of warranty work.
I could see checking the oil once a year or so, but also the anti-freeze too as sometimes a blown headgasket shows up as oil in the anti-freeze. Of course, the dealership will laugh at the test results as the basis of warranty work.
Le Mans Master
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From: Northern NJ
Originally Posted by catbert
Never had a GTO huh!
Trying to convince my daughter to attend ASU. SUN DEVILS!!!!
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i can see doing this with large truck engines where it takes 48 quarts to fill the crnkcase,are diven many miles between changes and the engines are very expensive. with a new corvette engine the chances of having a problem are slim to none so i just spend my money on the oil changes. GM is not going to warrant a engine repair on the showing of a oil analysis, they will wait till it fits their criteria for needing a repair. JMHO