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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Going to one of my martial arts classes last night and coming off of a light... I was just cruising in 3rd when a new body style mustang pulls up beside me and pumps once and then goes. I read cobra on the back as he rolled me hard and I had to down shift to 2nd for my kick. I caught him shortly after my shift to 3rd. I was steadily gaining on him from above 3500 in 2nd until shortly after 3rd and then he let off when I pulled up and was starting to pass.

I don't know how hard he was in it, but I was in it all just to catch up.

When he pulled up beside me afterward, I gave him a thumbs up and he gave me the finger and turned right.

Do you think he was really in it or should my basically stock (cai only) C6 have been able to run him down?

Not trying to start a C6 vs cobra war... just curious.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jz's blue c6
Going to one of my martial arts classes last night and coming off of a light... I was just cruising in 3rd when a new body style mustang pulls up beside me and pumps once and then goes. I read cobra on the back as he rolled me hard and I had to down shift to 2nd for my kick. I caught him shortly after my shift to 3rd. I was steadily gaining on him from above 3500 in 2nd until shortly after 3rd and then he let off when I pulled up and was starting to pass.

I don't know how hard he was in it, but I was in it all just to catch up.

When he pulled up beside me afterward, I gave him a thumbs up and he gave me the finger and turned right.

Do you think he was really in it or should my basically stock (cai only) C6 have been able to run him down?

Not trying to start a C6 vs cobra war... just curious.
There is no 05 Cobra, its going to be a 07 and its not out yet.You were racing a 05 Mustang GT with Cobra stickers. If his car was stock, you should have crushed him.

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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Corvettes are much more expensive to modify if that is your thing but Mustangs no matter what the breed is cobra, GT-500, GT whatever there are tons and tons of aftermarket parts for this car at decent prices so if you want to mod a car the Mustang is the one to do that to because of the availability of parts and reasonable prices. Besides If a Mustang wants to stand any type of chance against a factory base Corvette he better do alot of modifications to keep with a factory Corvette. So alot of these Stangs running around are modified so many times it isn't a comparable match. Besides Corvettes have superior weight distrubution near 50/50 and better aerodynamics than any and all of todays high performance muscle cars. Corette has better top end speed with a lower aerodynamic drive getting good gas mileage too if that is of any importance to some people.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JELSIS
You were racing a 05 Mustang GT with Cobra stickers.
Unless he's not sure of what an '03/'04 Cobra looks like (way different than an '05/'06 Mustang of course) and was maybe next to one of those instead.
They are pretty fast, even stock.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Unless he's not sure of what an '03/'04 Cobra looks like (way different than an '05/'06 Mustang of course) and was maybe next to one of those instead.
They are pretty fast, even stock.
03/04 Cobra is an awesome car, with just a pulley, CAI and exhaust they are running mid to high 11's. If he was running one of these he would have heard the Super charger whine.

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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JELSIS
03/04 Cobra is an awesome car, with just a pulley, CAI and exhaust they are running mid to high 11's. If he was running one of these he would have heard the Super charger whine.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Being the resident Cobra expert on the Vette boards.

03/04 Cobras are wicked fast and with $1000 worth of mods, are easily able to out run Vettes driven correctly, but...

and this is very important.

The Vette just feels so much lighter, quicker, and more responsive in everyday driving.

My Cobra (492rwhp 11.84@120.57) always felt HEAVY.
My C6 auto Vert just loves to fly away from lights with just a hint of pedal pressure. Like my wife loves to say "EFFORTLESS ACCELERATION"

There is a different type of joy in driving a car that feels 1000#s lighter than a more powerful car that is much heavier.

Aldo worth noting, my stock C6 auto runs 12.57@110.67 with a 1.92 60with no driving skill.

My older 03 Cobra with 445rwhp ran 12.22@116 with a 1.93 60' on DRs on a prepped track. On the street I would take my chances in my C6, it is just too east to be consistent. Not that I would ever condone street racing, but just hypothetically speaking.

Also, once a C6 is moving (and I mean top end type speeds), aerodynamics and design go a long way towards top end acceleration.

Aside form the weak exhaust note, I hate to admit it, but the C6 Vette is the BEST desingned car I ahve ever driven.

Sidenote - My 350Z is still at GREAT CAR also, with an extra 100 horsepower = 400 like the C6 it would be just as GREAT a car.

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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Don't know what year the Cobra was...it was the new mustang body, but the rear fascia had Cobra molded in it and the front had a cobra symbol where the mustang symbol usually is. There are mustangs everywhere you look here, but I don't see many newer cobras.

Didn't hear a sc whine but when he kicked it, it sat down and shot out. To be honest, not real sure if I would have heard it over what I was doing or maybe I don't know what to listen for.

Anyway, thanks for the input.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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I had a Supercharged 350Z ....363 at the wheels Fun car!
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Being a former mustang guy, with a 480rwhp 1995 Mustang and a 480rwhp 03 Cobra, there are so many aftermarket parts to make these cars fast. Many superchargers are very quiet and can make quite a sleeper. So you never know what you're going to get with the stangs. I've looked at my recent 1/8th mile timeslips, comparing them to my 03 Cobar when it made 440rwhp/440rwtq SAE and my Vette runs consistently .2 and 2mph faster in the 1/8th. This is in worse weather as well with the DA usually 2000+ feet compared to near sea level. So it takes some mods for the stangs to keep up. Just know some stangs hide that nice 331 with 15lbs of boost from a turbo.
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Being a former mustang guy, with a 480rwhp 1995 Mustang and a 480rwhp 03 Cobra, there are so many aftermarket parts to make these cars fast. Many superchargers are very quiet and can make quite a sleeper. So you never know what you're going to get with the stangs. I've looked at my recent 1/8th mile timeslips, comparing them to my 03 Cobar when it made 440rwhp/440rwtq SAE and my Vette runs consistently .2 and 2mph faster in the 1/8th. This is in worse weather as well with the DA usually 2000+ feet compared to near sea level. So it takes some mods for the stangs to keep up. Just know some stangs hide that nice 331 with 15lbs of boost from a turbo.

I have a factory stock 88 5.0 in pristine condition and a C-6 and let me tell you the parts are alot less in cost for the Mustang and you have so many choices to chose from. The Corvette expect to pay lots of $$$$$ should you do any kind of mods and it is more difficult on the Vette because of limited space-I wouldn't mod anyway but I can agree that with these Mustangs you don't know what they are packin if they are modded to the max.
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Mustangs suck--oops I forgot I own one. And we all know that the Mustang does one thing better then the c6--it sounds faster.
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Being a former mustang guy, with a 480rwhp 1995 Mustang and a 480rwhp 03 Cobra, there are so many aftermarket parts to make these cars fast. Many superchargers are very quiet and can make quite a sleeper. So you never know what you're going to get with the stangs. I've looked at my recent 1/8th mile timeslips, comparing them to my 03 Cobar when it made 440rwhp/440rwtq SAE and my Vette runs consistently .2 and 2mph faster in the 1/8th. This is in worse weather as well with the DA usually 2000+ feet compared to near sea level. So it takes some mods for the stangs to keep up. Just know some stangs hide that nice 331 with 15lbs of boost from a turbo.


Or a 306 with 10 psi of boost from a vortech
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Old May 19, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LS WON

I have a factory stock 88 5.0 in pristine condition
Nice, my first Mustang (out of 4 total (three 5.0s and one 4.6) over the last 16 years) was a new '91 LX 5.0 notchback, emerald green, loved that car.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Nice, my first Mustang (out of 4 total (three 5.0s and one 4.6) over the last 16 years) was a new '91 LX 5.0 notchback, emerald green, loved that car.
Yes these cars are so easy to work on with lots of aftermarket parts if that is what you want. It is a very durable car as I still have mine I just hope the C-6 I have will last as long. One thing for sure the 5.0 is a much simplier car on a Ford Fairmont suspension the fox body suspension from 78-79.
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
Mustangs suck--oops I forgot I own one. And we all know that the Mustang does one thing better then the c6--it sounds faster.
Everything on the Mustang is cheaper in cost compared to the Corvette.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Unless he's not sure of what an '03/'04 Cobra looks like (way different than an '05/'06 Mustang of course) and was maybe next to one of those instead.
They are pretty fast, even stock.
Remember those 1987 1988 LX 5.0 notchbacks with no options very fast car also right out of the box.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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How fast were you rolling and when did you drop to second?

The 03/04 Cobras and Machs are quick, and if you didnt downshift until after he stepped on it and took off, he would pull away from you. Where you would have the advantage is a longer run. Your top speed (and the ability to control the car at it) is where you'd have the edge. I Also depending on each drivers abilities (no flame meant in any way), the launch makes the difference. True Cobras, unless driven right, smoke the tires like mad on a launch, which is the last thing you want. Ive seen two friends, one with a Cobra and one with a 05 Z51, both stock. From the hole and from a 30 MPH role, the Z51 ate the Cobra alive...Then the owner of the Z51 ate his free dinner because of it.
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I like Mustangs . . . . . They taste like chicken
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