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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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What is the stock T-stat temp. of an '05 LS2 ? I was in PepBoys the other day, and they had a 6.0L T-stat that was a 186 deg. unit. Thank's....



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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I think the stock LS2 t'stat is rated at 195*. You can get a 160* unit from several forum vendors. My '05's coolant temp runs in the high 170's* at highway speeds with the 160* t'stat. However, the car has not been tuned to allow the cooling fans to come on at a lower temp, hence, when in traffic, the temp will climb to the same temps as stock, before the fans come on, especially while running the ac. That's really not a bad thing, as occasional trips past 220* will boil out any condensation that may have accumulated in the oil and won't hunt anything.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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I don't know why you would want to run your engine at lower than design temperature. Why not just keep the factory T'stat and operate the car at 194 degrees. I think there are many factors to consider when lowering the T'stat setpoint.

BTW My oil temp runs about 216 when the coolant is at 194 assuming adequate air flow through the radiator (around 40 mph).
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Default Thank's for the replies....

The reason I asked the question, my Tuner suggested that I install a 180 deg. T-Stat to get the most out of his tune, he also stated that a 160 deg. was too cold, and would not allow the engine to operate at it's maximum potential. So, I'm thinking that the 186 deg. T-stat may be a good comprimise......



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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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factory stat is 186.6 Degrees.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rmd8136
I don't know why you would want to run your engine at lower than design temperature. Why not just keep the factory T'stat and operate the car at 194 degrees. I think there are many factors to consider when lowering the T'stat setpoint.

BTW My oil temp runs about 216 when the coolant is at 194 assuming adequate air flow through the radiator (around 40 mph).
I was told that as the temprature goes up, the computer starts to retard the timing to prevent spark knock, so a cooler thermostat will allow you to have more advance in the timing without hurting the engine.

However, you must tell the computer that you have the cooler thermostat or it does little if any good.

This is what I have been told, and it sounds logical, so I have the thermostat but haven't gotten around to installing it.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Andreas & Timd.... so Andreas, is there a 180 deg. out there that that fits our LS2's ?



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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Steve, I'm not sure if it's type specific LS2. C5 stats came 160, 172, and 180. Even though they don't have the extended spring and disc at the end. They would work. Yet since it's rating of 180 is so close to the factory, I don't think you would gain any overall cooling. I've always used the 160 stat in my LS1 and LS2 motors. My highway temps have always run at 178-183. In town and in traffic it sometimes reaches 198-203, and then starts down as I start moving again. With the correct tunning the fans will cycle on by % of total speed as temps go up. In the C5's you could simply turn them on at certain temp and off at another. Not so in the C6's. For example, last weekend I was in Las Vegas, At speeds of 90-110mph my engine temp never went over 181, oil at 214 Degrees. In town at 110 outside temp in traffic my temps never went over 207 idleing. BTW when the A/C is on the fans are at almost %100 of there max speed. Anyway hpoe the info helps.

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Steve, I'm not sure if it's type specific LS2. C5 stats came 160, 172, and 180. Even though they don't have the extended spring and disc at the end. They would work. Yet since it's rating of 180 is so close to the factory, I don't think you would gain any overall cooling. I've always used the 160 stat in my LS1 and LS2 motors. My highway temps have always run at 178-183. In town and in traffic it sometimes reaches 198-203, and then starts down as I start moving again. With the correct tunning the fans will cycle on by % of total speed as temps go up. In the C5's you could simply turn them on at certain temp and off at another. Not so in the C6's. For example, last weekend I was in Las Vegas, At speeds of 90-110mph my engine temp never went over 181, oil at 214 Degrees. In town at 110 outside temp in traffic my temps never went over 207 idleing. BTW when the A/C is on the fans are at almost %100 of there max speed. Anyway hope the info helps.

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Stock is 186, why mess with a 180? Go to a 160 and adjust your fans if you are looking for a noticeable difference. My two cents anyway. If I did not drag race I would just leave in the stock thermostat.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
Stock is 186, why mess with a 180? Go to a 160 and adjust your fans if you are looking for a noticeable difference.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
Stock is 186, why mess with a 180? Go to a 160 and adjust your fans if you are looking for a noticeable difference. My two cents anyway. If I did not drag race I would just leave in the stock thermostat.

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Originally Posted by EuroRod
I think the stock LS2 t'stat is rated at 195*. You can get a 160* unit from several forum vendors. My '05's coolant temp runs in the high 170's* at highway speeds with the 160* t'stat. However, the car has not been tuned to allow the cooling fans to come on at a lower temp, hence, when in traffic, the temp will climb to the same temps as stock, before the fans come on, especially while running the ac. That's really not a bad thing, as occasional trips past 220* will boil out any condensation that may have accumulated in the oil and won't hunt anything.

When in the high 170's on the highway, what's the oil temp?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Default Ok, so let me understand...

I can buy a 160 deg, T-stat, but it won't be a direct replacement part, rather it will be a generic, one T-stat fits all part ? I am leaning towards doing the 160 deg. as I LOVE to Drag Race !



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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by P-Colavette
I can buy a 160 deg, T-stat, but it won't be a direct replacement part, rather it will be a generic, one T-stat fits all part ? I am leaning towards doing the 160 deg. as I LOVE to Drag Race !



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it is direct replacement, take your stock one out and put in the 160, use stock housing and o-ring....
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Originally Posted by timd38
I was told that as the temprature goes up, the computer starts to retard the timing to prevent spark knock, so a cooler thermostat will allow you to have more advance in the timing without hurting the engine.

However, you must tell the computer that you have the cooler thermostat or it does little if any good.

This is what I have been told, and it sounds logical, so I have the thermostat but haven't gotten around to installing it.
Why not just have the fans reprogrammed with the stock thermostat in if you're just driving the mostly with an occasional race every now and then? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds???

Your thoughts....

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