Cheatr cam
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Cheatr cam
I want to install a cheatr cam on my ls2 and I just wanted to be sure of couple of things:
is installation easy?
how much rwhp should I expect?
(IDLE) some people say if you take it to the dealer they won't know that you installed the cam on, but I have one of my friend installed that cam and his car (LS1) sounds like he has a big cam (he has headers X and catback) i'm not sure if they have anything to do with the sound of the cam.
does it need a tune?
please educate me
is installation easy?
how much rwhp should I expect?
(IDLE) some people say if you take it to the dealer they won't know that you installed the cam on, but I have one of my friend installed that cam and his car (LS1) sounds like he has a big cam (he has headers X and catback) i'm not sure if they have anything to do with the sound of the cam.
does it need a tune?
please educate me
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
Originally Posted by 06corvette
I want to install a cheatr cam on my ls2 and I just wanted to be sure of couple of things:
is installation easy?
how much rwhp should I expect?
(IDLE) some people say if you take it to the dealer they won't know that you installed the cam on, but I have one of my friend installed that cam and his car (LS1) sounds like he has a big cam (he has headers X and catback) i'm not sure if they have anything to do with the sound of the cam.
does it need a tune?
please educate me
is installation easy?
how much rwhp should I expect?
(IDLE) some people say if you take it to the dealer they won't know that you installed the cam on, but I have one of my friend installed that cam and his car (LS1) sounds like he has a big cam (he has headers X and catback) i'm not sure if they have anything to do with the sound of the cam.
does it need a tune?
please educate me
Need tuning? Probably not. Should be tuned, definitely. I have a much larger cam and have been driving it for 2 weeks untuned.
Also, why even risk to warranty issue? Either don't even bother putting in such a small cam, or do it right and go larger. If you void your warranty make it worth it. Rule of thumb...no matter what cam you put in there, you will wish it was bigger.
Drifting
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I have the Cheatr cam.... Love it!!! The car doesn't make a large peak power, but you will pick up power everywhere off idle and holds it in the higher rpms..... The car drives idels just like stock and pulls hard on the highway....
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Last edited by xstang; Jun 12, 2006 at 08:51 AM.
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I have the Cheatr Cam on my C6 and it is exactly like stock and no one will know that a cam is in the car . So go ahead and add the cheatr cam 
I added :
1) Cheatr Cam
2) Halltech Cold Air intake
3) Dynatech LT headers with high flow cats
4) Corsa Sport exhaust
5) 100 shot NOS
and on the dyno i got those results :
480.4 RWHP & 502.8 RWTQ
still the car is not TUNED !! I am waiting for the HP tuners update for my A6 .
Thanks .
I added :
1) Cheatr Cam
2) Halltech Cold Air intake
3) Dynatech LT headers with high flow cats
4) Corsa Sport exhaust
5) 100 shot NOS
and on the dyno i got those results :
480.4 RWHP & 502.8 RWTQ
still the car is not TUNED !! I am waiting for the HP tuners update for my A6 .
Thanks .
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From: Alexandria VA
Originally Posted by xstang
I have the Cheatr cam.... Love it!!! The car doesn't make a large peak power, but you will pick up power everywhere off idle and holds it in the higher rpms..... The car drives idels just like stock and pulls hard on the highway....
AFR 205 Heads
Honker
Kooks
Mail order tune
AFR 205 Heads
Honker
Kooks
Mail order tune
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From: Roxbury NJ
Originally Posted by valdeztke
Isnt that torque kind of low? CYA VETT is making simliar without the heads...
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Drifting
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Originally Posted by valdeztke
Hmm I thought with most cams you lost low end torque?
The Cheatr cam is 215/232 117LSA...
Keep in mind, this was a mail order tune and I'm running rich... After the ported intake and dyno tune, I'm hoping for 450 with a crazy fat power band... This car runs much stronger thna the numbers suggest... I was able to hang on the rear 1/4 panel of a LPE 403 stroker putting down 468 to the wheels through 4 gears....
Melting Slicks
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From: Allentown PA
Originally Posted by valdeztke
Hmm I thought with most cams you lost low end torque?
Look at my before and after graph, I lost 10 lbs of torque at 3,000 but by 3,300 I was back at even and by 3,700 ganed 10. After the intake porting, the entire curve is above the before graph.
So yes, you do lose some torque but not a noticeable amout, if you don't believe me, drive my car, then tell me I lost low end torque.
That being said, the larger cams are made for the track where I'll spend all of my time over 4,000 rpm's. I have very little gain before that.
The smaller cams make power for the street. Both are very good, and people buy which one they prefer.
Dave
Last edited by CYA-Vett; Jun 16, 2006 at 02:30 PM.
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From: Near Philadelphia PA
Originally Posted by mrsaud
I have the Cheatr Cam on my C6 and it is exactly like stock and no one will know that a cam is in the car . So go ahead and add the cheatr cam
I added :
1) Cheatr Cam
2) Halltech Cold Air intake
3) Dynatech LT headers with high flow cats
4) Corsa Sport exhaust
5) 100 shot NOS
and on the dyno i got those results :
480.4 RWHP & 502.8 RWTQ
still the car is not TUNED !! I am waiting for the HP tuners update for my A6 .
Thanks .
I added :
1) Cheatr Cam
2) Halltech Cold Air intake
3) Dynatech LT headers with high flow cats
4) Corsa Sport exhaust
5) 100 shot NOS
and on the dyno i got those results :
480.4 RWHP & 502.8 RWTQ
still the car is not TUNED !! I am waiting for the HP tuners update for my A6 .
Thanks .
Patriot Heads 2.055/1.60 Valves, Double Springs
Comp 231/237 .589/.595 112 Camshaft
ASP Under Drive Pulley
Haltech Stinger
Kooks 1 7/8 Headers, Off Road 3" X Pipe
B&B Bullet Exhaust, Quad tips
can that handle a nitrous shot of 50-100???? what is the max the ls2 stock block can handle without pushing it to much?
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From: Dubai
Originally Posted by KillerVette
Ok, i need some education too. this is my first LS2. I have
Patriot Heads 2.055/1.60 Valves, Double Springs
Comp 231/237 .589/.595 112 Camshaft
ASP Under Drive Pulley
Haltech Stinger
Kooks 1 7/8 Headers, Off Road 3" X Pipe
B&B Bullet Exhaust, Quad tips
can that handle a nitrous shot of 50-100???? what is the max the ls2 stock block can handle without pushing it to much?
Patriot Heads 2.055/1.60 Valves, Double Springs
Comp 231/237 .589/.595 112 Camshaft
ASP Under Drive Pulley
Haltech Stinger
Kooks 1 7/8 Headers, Off Road 3" X Pipe
B&B Bullet Exhaust, Quad tips
can that handle a nitrous shot of 50-100???? what is the max the ls2 stock block can handle without pushing it to much?
And yes ofcourse it can handle more than 50-100 some guys they add 200 shots and everything is ok ..
I went with the 100 Shot and you can really feel the difference .
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From: Near Philadelphia PA
Originally Posted by Corvette Racing
Whats ur RWHP & RWTQ of ur car ?
And yes ofcourse it can handle more than 50-100 some guys they add 200 shots and everything is ok ..
I went with the 100 Shot and you can really feel the difference .
And yes ofcourse it can handle more than 50-100 some guys they add 200 shots and everything is ok ..
I went with the 100 Shot and you can really feel the difference .
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Originally Posted by xstang
Most cams will shift the poer to the upper rpms...... I wanted something that would increase power from idle to redline.
The Cheatr cam is 215/232 117LSA...
Keep in mind, this was a mail order tune and I'm running rich... After the ported intake and dyno tune, I'm hoping for 450 with a crazy fat power band... This car runs much stronger thna the numbers suggest... I was able to hang on the rear 1/4 panel of a LPE 403 stroker putting down 468 to the wheels through 4 gears....
The Cheatr cam is 215/232 117LSA...
Keep in mind, this was a mail order tune and I'm running rich... After the ported intake and dyno tune, I'm hoping for 450 with a crazy fat power band... This car runs much stronger thna the numbers suggest... I was able to hang on the rear 1/4 panel of a LPE 403 stroker putting down 468 to the wheels through 4 gears....
because (215+232)/2 = 223.5. unless i'm wrong, a 223/223 should idle roughly like a 215/232 would.
btw for whoever was talking about the cheater cam not making torque ... that's due to the 117 LSA. if the LSA were down to 112 or 111, the car would make a ton more low end, but wouldn't idle like glass anymore.
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