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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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I finally installed the Callaway Honker and as everyone else has stated , it is a really nice fit and finish unit that looks great under the hood. I replaced a Blackwing that I ran for about 2 years with it. I did not do an idle re-learn as I had the Blackwing for so long and figured it would be close. I now have about 50 miles on the Callaway. The interesting thing is that I am not noticing much difference at this point at all between it and the Blackwing at lower speeds. Only at highway speeds do I notice a differece. There seems to be more get up and go at around 60 or so or in 3rd and fourth gear. Maybe it needs more time to adjust, or maybe it really needs a tune to optimize the unit. I just expected to feel a greater difference than I do at first and second gear pulls. The Blackwing had the open ZO6 screens to let a little air in. Anyone else noticed this?****OOps, I just realized I posted this in C6 when it should have been C5. Sorry.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie2blue
I finally installed the Callaway Honker and as everyone else has stated , it is a really nice fit and finish unit that looks great under the hood. I replaced a Blackwing that I ran for about 2 years with it. I did not do an idle re-learn as I had the Blackwing for so long and figured it would be close. I now have about 50 miles on the Callaway. The interesting thing is that I am not noticing much difference at this point at all between it and the Blackwing at lower speeds. Only at highway speeds do I notice a differece. There seems to be more get up and go at around 60 or so or in 3rd and fourth gear. Maybe it needs more time to adjust, or maybe it really needs a tune to optimize the unit. I just expected to feel a greater difference than I do at first and second gear pulls. The Blackwing had the open ZO6 screens to let a little air in. Anyone else noticed this?
Why did you expect to notice a difference? Most posts I've read seem to indicate only minor differences between aftermarket air intakes - even when comparing "bottom feeders" vs. "non-bottom feeders." One would expect there to be a more substantial difference the faster you go because of the ram air effect.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Since the Honker is drawing outside air, the colder the outside temperature the better the car pulls. I notice a word of difference in the winter than when it's 95 degrees out.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie2blue
I finally installed the Callaway Honker and as everyone else has stated , it is a really nice fit and finish unit that looks great under the hood. I replaced a Blackwing that I ran for about 2 years with it. I did not do an idle re-learn as I had the Blackwing for so long and figured it would be close. I now have about 50 miles on the Callaway. The interesting thing is that I am not noticing much difference at this point at all between it and the Blackwing at lower speeds. Only at highway speeds do I notice a differece. There seems to be more get up and go at around 60 or so or in 3rd and fourth gear. Maybe it needs more time to adjust, or maybe it really needs a tune to optimize the unit. I just expected to feel a greater difference than I do at first and second gear pulls. The Blackwing had the open ZO6 screens to let a little air in. Anyone else noticed this?****OOps, I just realized I posted this in C6 when it should have been C5. Sorry.
You shouldn't necessarily need to retune. And as long as the idle is still satisfactory, you don't necessarily need to idle re-learn.

I'm a bit surprised that you only notice a difference in highway speeds, though. Let's ignore the benefit of cooler, denser air drawn from outside of the engine compartment by the Honker design for now. As engine RPM increases, airflow requirement increases, so any air induction system with less restriction would allow more flow and produce more horsepower. At low RPM, the power difference between stock and aftermarket induction systems is less than it is at higher speeds. The difference is approximately linear with respect to engine speed, with maximum difference occuring at the peak power RPM (6000 RPM or so). Most people comment that the seat-of-the-pants difference is most noticeable at midrange (2500 RPM or so) and higher RPM. I can only speculate that some people are more sensitive to this level of power increase than others.

Below, I've attached an article that was published by Vette Magazine in their August 2005 issue which illustrates independent dyno comparison of these two systems on a slightly modified C5. They found an increase of approx. 20 hp at the wheels: 399.8 rwhp increased to 419.4 with Honker, 432.2 rwhp with air/fuel tuning.




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