C6 vs Evo
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From: San Diego CA
Originally Posted by hyperjoe
Can someone educate me on the situations (if any) where an Evo would beat out a C6 Vette on the race track (drag/course/etc)? Someone I know is flaunting his mitsubishi a little....
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Originally Posted by teazr1
The EVO's are awesome cars. AWD is a totally different animal. For me personally, I'm not out to race, it's all about the looks while still having a car that's fun to drive from a performance perspective. The corvette is a fun car with great looks. The speed limit is 65mph is most places and in Southern CA you're lucky if you can drive that fast. I have a friend who is looking at getting an EVO. I tell him that I'm going to buy him two child seats for his family sedan when he gets it.
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From: Catonsville MD
Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Evos are ugly as sin, sound like my lawnmower with no muffler and cheap and crappy looking inside. Mitsubishi is about as unethical a company as there is--hiding what would have been grounds for a NHTSA recall in desk drawers, kickbacks from Suppliers, ad nauseum. I believe and hope they go out of business in the US soon. The Evo may be a fast, fun handling car to drive, but it is still a pos from a pos company, imo. The Subie otoh, will probably be our next (wife's) car. Night and day between the companies' ethics, and the WRX STI is simply a better looking--and built car from a company I wouldn't have to wash my hands after doing business with.
I don't care for the new front end on the STi. My GF wanted one until the new front end came out, I think she's set on the 350Z now.
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From: Jersey Shore NJ
one night last week a white evo tried to race me. he took an early lead off the line which i expected, but i quickly caught him. it sounded like he had a turbo, but im not sure, i thought i heard some hissing like a bov. anyway he kept it pretty close till around 60-70mph then i ended up pulling away on him easily.
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I drove an Evo 8 this past weekend to try them out. Figured it would be a fun 4 door car to keep along side the vette.
I really don't know what all the hype is about. Without reving it up to boost range, it seriously can't move its own weight. The tranny was messed up in the used one I drove too, so that didn't help things. It was very hard to get it into 1st gear. It idled rough, and even when I had it at full boost the power band seemed very narrow.
I have seen fast ones at the strip (high 12's), but I've also seen two of them go home on tow trucks.
That and AWD is kind of fun around turns but when you try to shift fast, it just seems painful letting the clutch try to handle 4 wheels.
The one track day I had back in April had one Evo in my group. He was one of the faster cars there, but he clearly not as fast as me or the new M that was there.
That's my two cents.
I really don't know what all the hype is about. Without reving it up to boost range, it seriously can't move its own weight. The tranny was messed up in the used one I drove too, so that didn't help things. It was very hard to get it into 1st gear. It idled rough, and even when I had it at full boost the power band seemed very narrow.
I have seen fast ones at the strip (high 12's), but I've also seen two of them go home on tow trucks.
That and AWD is kind of fun around turns but when you try to shift fast, it just seems painful letting the clutch try to handle 4 wheels.
The one track day I had back in April had one Evo in my group. He was one of the faster cars there, but he clearly not as fast as me or the new M that was there.
That's my two cents.
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From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by Mangs
one night last week a white evo tried to race me. he took an early lead off the line which i expected, but i quickly caught him. it sounded like he had a turbo, but im not sure, i thought i heard some hissing like a bov. anyway he kept it pretty close till around 60-70mph then i ended up pulling away on him easily.
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Originally Posted by xstang
I've owned both cars and it would be a very close race... An Evo with the right setup will be very tough for a C6 to beat.... I prefer the C6, but the Evo can power out of the turns like no other with the AWD...
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From: Houston TX
Originally Posted by hyperjoe
Can someone educate me on the situations (if any) where an Evo would beat out a C6 Vette
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Drag racing stock the Evo will get you out of the hole but you will run him down. Unfortunately, it is hard to find many that are stock. Most of the ones I have seen are modified and running mid to high 11's
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
Drag racing stock the Evo will get you out of the hole but you will run him down. Unfortunately, it is hard to find many that are stock. Most of the ones I have seen are modified and running mid to high 11's
I have driven both at TWS, and stock for stock, it's going to come down to the drivers. The C6 is much faster around a road course, but it's much, much harder to drive fast. The Evo is easy and confidence inspiring, mainly because it's so easy to put the power down and it's so forgiving of mistakes. If the C6 driver knows what he's doing, he'll run away from the Evo. If he doesn't, even a mediocre driver in the Evo is going to get the better of him.
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The turbo makes it really easy to get a lot of extra horsepower out of it. With a chip flash and a little work, you can pump out more horsepower than our Corvettes.
True, but an awful lot of the hot ricer drivers end up grenading their engines when they turn the boost up. Fact is, the engine is still a thin wall 4-banger with a blower. Not engineered/made for unlimited horsepower, and quality is not Job 1 at mitsubishi... And many of the drivers don't know a sodium filled valve from a Tootsie Roll Pop...they just know fart-can exhausts are 'da bomb.'
True, but an awful lot of the hot ricer drivers end up grenading their engines when they turn the boost up. Fact is, the engine is still a thin wall 4-banger with a blower. Not engineered/made for unlimited horsepower, and quality is not Job 1 at mitsubishi... And many of the drivers don't know a sodium filled valve from a Tootsie Roll Pop...they just know fart-can exhausts are 'da bomb.'
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From: Cupertino CA
I don't understand the obsession with drag racing
I find the Evo, with its very sharp steering and excellent Recaro seats (among my favorite seats in any car), to be more fun to drive than the C6 particularly at lower speeds. The C6 simply feels lazy until pushed. That's a double edge sword of course. If you are looking to feel that intensity all the time, the Evo it is. If you want a more comfortable cruiser that can be pushed hard when desired, the C6 it is.
I haven't taken my C6 to the track or autocross, nor have driven the Evo more than at a slow pace. The AWD system should allow for a fair amount of sloppy driving => you can push it harder without losing it. So that definitely helps. I suspect the C6 might be the better car when going at track speeds, but it's hard to predict which car I'll like better at a slower speed autocross.
I find the Evo, with its very sharp steering and excellent Recaro seats (among my favorite seats in any car), to be more fun to drive than the C6 particularly at lower speeds. The C6 simply feels lazy until pushed. That's a double edge sword of course. If you are looking to feel that intensity all the time, the Evo it is. If you want a more comfortable cruiser that can be pushed hard when desired, the C6 it is.
I haven't taken my C6 to the track or autocross, nor have driven the Evo more than at a slow pace. The AWD system should allow for a fair amount of sloppy driving => you can push it harder without losing it. So that definitely helps. I suspect the C6 might be the better car when going at track speeds, but it's hard to predict which car I'll like better at a slower speed autocross.
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From: miramar fl
Originally Posted by Mangs
one night last week a white evo tried to race me. he took an early lead off the line which i expected, but i quickly caught him. it sounded like he had a turbo, but im not sure, i thought i heard some hissing like a bov. anyway he kept it pretty close till around 60-70mph then i ended up pulling away on him easily.
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From: Long Island NY
The new EVO 9 with just a MBC, 3" TBE, and reflash can run 11's as its been already done a few times.
On a Drag strip its holeshot will be nasty stock for stock but you should be able to catch up to him the longer the race goes. As in you should be making up ground on him in the later part of the 1/4 mile if he gets a real good AWD launch on you.
On a race track/road course you should be able to blow by him on the straights because your trapping a higher MPH. Also in the corners it will be close because both cars handle VERY WELL.
My good friend traded in his EVO 8 for an EVO 9....the upgraded turbo on the EVO 9 is a bit better then the older one. So in short when it comes to Holeshot he "might" get you....from a roll(already moving) hes yours.
On a Drag strip its holeshot will be nasty stock for stock but you should be able to catch up to him the longer the race goes. As in you should be making up ground on him in the later part of the 1/4 mile if he gets a real good AWD launch on you.
On a race track/road course you should be able to blow by him on the straights because your trapping a higher MPH. Also in the corners it will be close because both cars handle VERY WELL.
My good friend traded in his EVO 8 for an EVO 9....the upgraded turbo on the EVO 9 is a bit better then the older one. So in short when it comes to Holeshot he "might" get you....from a roll(already moving) hes yours.
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From: Houston TX
Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Evos are ugly as sin, sound like my lawnmower with no muffler and cheap and crappy looking inside. Mitsubishi is about as unethical a company as there is--hiding what would have been grounds for a NHTSA recall in desk drawers, kickbacks from Suppliers, ad nauseum. I believe and hope they go out of business in the US soon. The Evo may be a fast, fun handling car to drive, but it is still a pos from a pos company, imo. The Subie otoh, will probably be our next (wife's) car. Night and day between the companies' ethics, and the WRX STI is simply a better looking--and built car from a company I wouldn't have to wash my hands after doing business with.
The STi is an absolutely awesome car in the rain.