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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Went to the dealer for the first oil change at 2600 miles and did not notice that they put 7qts in until I got home and checked oil level then the service receipt.

The way home was mostly rush hour in NYC nothing crazy in terms of oil pressure, revs or speed, as its all bumper to bumper. Will drain the extra quart or so but what kind of dammage if any might the engine have been exposed to for a fifty mile run? I don’t think its a big deal but want some feed back as I am due to go back to that dealer for other issues and want them to understand that they do not run the PLATINUM service center that they think they do.

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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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I'm sure you did no harm and I remember reading on here about a owners manual recommendation to add an extra quart if racing. I'd check my manual but don't have it yet (long story). I'd certainly complain, in a professional manner, as to their error and the trouble it caused you. I would expect at least my next oil change would be free.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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I'm sure you did no harm and I remember reading on here about a owners manual recommendation to add an extra quart if racing. I'd check my manual but don't have it yet (long story). I'd certainly complain, in a professional manner, as to their error and the trouble it caused you. I would expect at least my next oil change would be free.
I extra quart while racing and drain it out.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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dagoogooman,

I have a stock c6, z51, that I track and read the instruction manual about adding 1 extra quart for the track and then draining it out for the street.

This logoc makes no sense to me, if the extra quart is not a probelm on the track, with 6,000 rpm straights and 1g turns, why would it be a problem on the street ??

I posed that question on this forum and several responses convinced me to just leave the extra quart in, that it will cause no problems.

So, I've had an extra quart thru 3 months and 4 track days. No ill effects I can discern. I say, leave it in.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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So, I've had an extra quart thru 3 months and 4 track days. No ill effects I can discern. I say, leave it in.
But I can just see that quart now....
Just gnawing on people's minds!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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But I can just see that quart now....
Just gnawing on people's minds!
You're right, it will gnaw. That's what drugs are for .....
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
I extra quart while racing and drain it out.
Why drain it out though? That extra quart is good for daily driving too. I run an extra quart in my C5 all the time, and my oil analysis results look great and I have zero consumption.
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Why drain it out though? That extra quart is good for daily driving too. I run an extra quart in my C5 all the time, and my oil analysis results look great and I have zero consumption.
You run the risk of foaming and that's not good. This is caused by the crankshaft churning up the oil. The reason it not a problem on the track is the constant turns. The extra quart guarantee's the pickup will always have suction.
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You run the risk of foaming and that's not good. This is caused by the crankshaft churning up the oil. The reason it not a problem on the track is the constant turns. The extra quart guarantee's the pickup will always have suction.
In some engines, yes, that extra quart can run the risk of foaming, but on the LSx series of engines it is not a problem. If I had foaming in my engine I would know it by now. I've run an extra quart over ever since I bought my car two years ago and have driven it over 37,000 miles too. One way to check for foaming is to make a full throttle run and then shut the engine off and immediately check your oil. If you see lots of tiny bubbles on the dipstick, then you're running too much oil. I know a few guys who determine their upper limit for oil level by this method. They keep adding a tiny bit of oil until they see bubbles, then they know how much oil to run safely.
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dagoogooman,

I have a stock c6, z51, that I track and read the instruction manual about adding 1 extra quart for the track and then draining it out for the street.

This logoc makes no sense to me, if the extra quart is not a probelm on the track, with 6,000 rpm straights and 1g turns, why would it be a problem on the street ??

I posed that question on this forum and several responses convinced me to just leave the extra quart in, that it will cause no problems.

So, I've had an extra quart thru 3 months and 4 track days. No ill effects I can discern. I say, leave it in.
Can push through seals--especially valve cover gaskets and rear main, I've heard as worse problem when I owned an auto repair shop. The excess would be 'stored' in valve covers, supposedly. However, I sure as hell wouldn't want to overfill to the extent that happened--what a mess! Probably a qt isn't too bad, but I would still drain it out just to be on the safe side.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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What was your oil pressure?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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As I recall, 36-40 PSI at idle
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Can push through seals--especially valve cover gaskets and rear main, I've heard as worse problem when I owned an auto repair shop. The excess would be 'stored' in valve covers, supposedly. However, I sure as hell wouldn't want to overfill to the extent that happened--what a mess! Probably a qt isn't too bad, but I would still drain it out just to be on the safe side.
I agree about taking a little out...
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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But I can just see that quart now....
Just gnawing on people's minds!

We need a nail biting icon
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Too much oil can create several issues.

Over filling can cause the oil to aerate. Thus causing eratic oil pressure not recognizable by your vehicles sensor, this sensors response time is not so accurate. Aerating the oil MAY do the following; create friction thus causing reduced performance and accelerating the degredation of the oil. Aeration MAY also cause erosion of bearing shells and oil pump porting.
But, the most likely result of overfilling your oil would be excessive oil consumption through your PCV system. Which MAY cause detonation and or misfire. Also, premature catalytic contamination.

Probably best not to ovrerfill.

These are all MAY be effects. But what do I know. Just my opinion.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AFTERBURN
Too much oil can create several issues.

Over filling can cause the oil to aerate. Thus causing eratic oil pressure not recognizable by your vehicles sensor, this sensors response time is not so accurate. Aerating the oil MAY do the following; create friction thus causing reduced performance and accelerating the degredation of the oil. Aeration MAY also cause erosion of bearing shells and oil pump porting.
But, the most likely result of overfilling your oil would be excessive oil consumption through your PCV system. Which MAY cause detonation and or misfire. Also, premature catalytic contamination.

Probably best not to ovrerfill.

These are all MAY be effects. But what do I know. Just my opinion.
Thanks, l will drain some off. As other members said...I probably "did not do any dammage" on a fifty mile run in NYC rush hour...Thanks to all who replied..."Vette On"
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1 quart over is a non issue. 1 gallon over might cause aeration and the beginnings of hydrolock. 3 gallons over will definaetly cause aeration and hydrolock.
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But I can just see that quart now....
Just gnawing on people's minds!

But I can just see that quart now....
Just gnawing on people's minds!
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Originally Posted by da-googoo-man
As I recall, 36-40 PSI at idle
Mine is 40 while running on highway and at idle I have to recheck I think it was 29 or 30
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Drain out the excess (for reasons mentioned above) now.

Exactally why I always do my own.
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