MTI Shifter?
Instructor
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From: Orcutt CA
I installed one a couple of months ago. The stick is straight rather than bent to the rear like OE, so **** ends up slightly forward from stock. I'd say it was engineered this way to facilitate a cleaner/faster shift from 2nd to 3rd. Throws are shorter than OE front to rear by about 35-40% and gates are tighter side to side. No noticable increase in effort with this shifter. Although dead quiet under normal use, there is a slight rattling noise under full throttle but only with your hand gripping the ****. Noise is very minor, and not an issue for me. A well engineered, quality piece IMO, at a good price. Can recommend without hesitation.
Night Owl for life
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From: Bugs Bunny should'a made a left turn here
i just installed one today. the only thing i don't care for is the new position of the **** since the shaft is not bent.
other than that, there is no noise and the shifts are short and smooth.
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From: Hudson WI
NCM Sinkhole Donor
I bought a "used" B&M from a forum member because it rattled. it took a couple of weeks, but it rattles (like a 60's muscle car) for me too, but it doesn't bug me so I am OK with it.
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From: Bugs Bunny should'a made a left turn here
Originally Posted by kelp
I just had my MTI shaft angled and welded 20* at a local muffler shop for free, although I made the guy take $20.
Now you could make it any angle you want to fall right into your hand.
Now you could make it any angle you want to fall right into your hand.
when you say he angled and welded it, did he cut it first or did he just heat it with a torch?
i can take the oem shifter and have a welding guy match it.
do you think there will be any problem with the strength of the mti shifter's shaft now that it's bent?
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From: Cinnaminson New Jersey
MTI 6 shooter
I have had mine on for a few months now and find it a big improvement over stock. The shifts feel more accurate and with a closer gate, without the rubbery feel of the original . For those experiencing shifter buzz, make sure the **** is on tight. I ground down my torx set screw that holds the original **** on because it didn't look seated when tightened all the way. I also wrapped the the top of the shifter shaft with teflon tape and used lok-tite on the set screw (advice from another forum member). No shifter buzz or rattle at all. I also guide it with the palm of my hand in the 2nd to 3rd shift. Needless to say I'm very happy with the shifter
Last edited by cielosf; Oct 23, 2006 at 01:02 PM.
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From: Columbia MD
I have had mine on for a few months now and find it a big improvement over stock. The shifts feel more accurate and with a closer gate, without the rubbery feel of the original . For those experiencing shifter buzz, make sure the **** is on tight. I ground down my torx set screw that holds the original **** on because it didn't look seated when tightened all the way. I also wrapped the the top of the shifter shaft with teflon tape and used lok-tite on the set screw (advice from another forum member). No shifter buzz or rattle at all. I also guide it with the palm of my hand in the 2nd to 3rd shift. Needless to say I'm very happy with the shifter
Other than the rattle, shifting felt good and the throw was about just right.
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Safety Car
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: North Carolina
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'11-'12
I wound up passing on it due to order problems with MTI. Im glad I did, Ive read about 5 or 6 people with the same complaint with the new shifter. In the Z06 forum, Reese admitted to noise problems with about half, and they dont know what is causing it.
I wound up going the a B&M 45044 from Corvettes of Houston. It was less money, feels great, no noise, no problems finding any gear, and best of all I had it in three days(I waited 5 weeks and finally cancelled with MTI). And to top it, it has a million mile warranty, where MTI states they only warrant their parts of the shifter for one year, but the parts they reuse from GM are only guaranteed upon initial installation. They also state the warranty is void if the shifter is used intensively, like for racing, because it is not designed for that (I think anyone who is upgrading their shifter is doing so in order to drive more intensively). So if the parts they use from GM break two weeks after you install it, you are out of luck.
It's listed in the warratny section here:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick...Install001.pdf
I wound up going the a B&M 45044 from Corvettes of Houston. It was less money, feels great, no noise, no problems finding any gear, and best of all I had it in three days(I waited 5 weeks and finally cancelled with MTI). And to top it, it has a million mile warranty, where MTI states they only warrant their parts of the shifter for one year, but the parts they reuse from GM are only guaranteed upon initial installation. They also state the warranty is void if the shifter is used intensively, like for racing, because it is not designed for that (I think anyone who is upgrading their shifter is doing so in order to drive more intensively). So if the parts they use from GM break two weeks after you install it, you are out of luck.
It's listed in the warratny section here:
http://www.mtiracing.com/artmaverick...Install001.pdf
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Woodinville WA
I just took my six shooter out of my C5 Z06 (same shifter used for C6) because of the obnoxious rattle. I'm able to reproduce this rattle by holding the shifter base in one hand and jiggling the shift lever with the other. Appears to be too much clearance between the ball and socket bushings in my shifter which allows it to rattle. My stock 17K mile shifter is still tight, and never a rattle. Thought I bought a precision product.
The shift feel and function of the six shooter is great, but can't live with the rattle. Even my passenger complained, "I thought these corvettes were supposed to be good," How friggin embarassing.
The shift feel and function of the six shooter is great, but can't live with the rattle. Even my passenger complained, "I thought these corvettes were supposed to be good," How friggin embarassing.
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Shifter
Hi guys,
I would like to just chime in here and say that the shifter we here at MTI Racing developed was born at the road track (in all honestly) and that is where its full potential is realized. Also, we have sold over 400units and only 17 call-backs / negative forum feedback, not bad numbers (percentage wise) but still not the level of perfection we try to achieve. However, we are not leaving you hanging we are working on this and have two engineers developing a dampening system that will work in conjunction with our "Six Shooter." The real problem is that when you replace something stock, rubber, or other wise sloppy with something rigid and precise there are pros and cons. Pros: faster, shorter, more direct shifts. Cons: some driveline vibrations can transfer through the ****. The question for those of you who have the rattle is what’s worth more to me? Precision or noise?
Thank you guys for your patriotism, patience and support of MTI Racing.
I would like to just chime in here and say that the shifter we here at MTI Racing developed was born at the road track (in all honestly) and that is where its full potential is realized. Also, we have sold over 400units and only 17 call-backs / negative forum feedback, not bad numbers (percentage wise) but still not the level of perfection we try to achieve. However, we are not leaving you hanging we are working on this and have two engineers developing a dampening system that will work in conjunction with our "Six Shooter." The real problem is that when you replace something stock, rubber, or other wise sloppy with something rigid and precise there are pros and cons. Pros: faster, shorter, more direct shifts. Cons: some driveline vibrations can transfer through the ****. The question for those of you who have the rattle is what’s worth more to me? Precision or noise?
Thank you guys for your patriotism, patience and support of MTI Racing.
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From: Columbia MD
BTW, do you guys accept returns?
Melting Slicks
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From: Woodinville WA
Hi guys,
I would like to just chime in here and say that the shifter we here at MTI Racing developed was born at the road track (in all honestly) and that is where its full potential is realized. Also, we have sold over 400units and only 17 call-backs / negative forum feedback, not bad numbers (percentage wise) but still not the level of perfection we try to achieve. However, we are not leaving you hanging we are working on this and have two engineers developing a dampening system that will work in conjunction with our "Six Shooter." The real problem is that when you replace something stock, rubber, or other wise sloppy with something rigid and precise there are pros and cons. Pros: faster, shorter, more direct shifts. Cons: some driveline vibrations can transfer through the ****. The question for those of you who have the rattle is what’s worth more to me? Precision or noise?
Thank you guys for your patriotism, patience and support of MTI Racing.
I would like to just chime in here and say that the shifter we here at MTI Racing developed was born at the road track (in all honestly) and that is where its full potential is realized. Also, we have sold over 400units and only 17 call-backs / negative forum feedback, not bad numbers (percentage wise) but still not the level of perfection we try to achieve. However, we are not leaving you hanging we are working on this and have two engineers developing a dampening system that will work in conjunction with our "Six Shooter." The real problem is that when you replace something stock, rubber, or other wise sloppy with something rigid and precise there are pros and cons. Pros: faster, shorter, more direct shifts. Cons: some driveline vibrations can transfer through the ****. The question for those of you who have the rattle is what’s worth more to me? Precision or noise?
Thank you guys for your patriotism, patience and support of MTI Racing.
I can get mine to rattle in my hands with the shifter out of the car. No driveline noise comming through there. I'd have to say for a street driver like mine noise is more important.
Once you get the bugs sorted out you may have one of the best shifters out there. Too bad I bought mine while this product still midway in its R&D stage and is being user tested. Clever devils; make people pay $200 to test your product for you.
Safety Car
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From: Houston Texas
I can get mine to rattle in my hands with the shifter out of the car. No driveline noise comming through there. I'd have to say for a street driver like mine noise is more important.
Once you get the bugs sorted out you may have one of the best shifters out there. Too bad I bought mine while this product still midway in its R&D stage and is being user tested. Clever devils; make people pay $200 to test your product for you.
Once you get the bugs sorted out you may have one of the best shifters out there. Too bad I bought mine while this product still midway in its R&D stage and is being user tested. Clever devils; make people pay $200 to test your product for you.
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Hey Friends,
I believe that some are misunderstanding, the six shooter was a 2 year project and, by our standards, is still in progress because we do not settle for anything less than absolute perfection with any and all of our products and services. For the track it is perfect, and any of the guys that have used it there will agree with that statement. However, when you take something that is designed for performance driving, moreover track conditions, you do not desire comfort over precision or reliability. Again, that does not mean that it should feel like the old rock-crusher "a boat paddle in a bucket of nuts" but it should not make your car a daunting chore to drive either. That is why we are developing a dampening system for the guys who have this complaint, and for the guys who do not track their cars often or just want to safeguard against the noise.
Thanks,
JR
I believe that some are misunderstanding, the six shooter was a 2 year project and, by our standards, is still in progress because we do not settle for anything less than absolute perfection with any and all of our products and services. For the track it is perfect, and any of the guys that have used it there will agree with that statement. However, when you take something that is designed for performance driving, moreover track conditions, you do not desire comfort over precision or reliability. Again, that does not mean that it should feel like the old rock-crusher "a boat paddle in a bucket of nuts" but it should not make your car a daunting chore to drive either. That is why we are developing a dampening system for the guys who have this complaint, and for the guys who do not track their cars often or just want to safeguard against the noise.
Thanks,
JR
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