I am looking at CAIs. Any opinions on Halltech Stinger Vs the Blackwing?

 

dont waste your money..just upgrade from a paper filter and be done with it

niether a cai or catbacks have shown ANY hp increase on the dyno

 

If I only drove my car on a dyno I'd consider that to be useful information.

 

 

dont be mad u wasted your money happens to all of us sometimes

its true the cai MIGHT help at higher speeds on the actual road...but prove it

as far as teh catback is concern'd i dont care if your on the road,dyno or underwater all your buying is sound

 

Pretty funny.

I'll tell you what, take 2 equally equipped cars, you can even get them tuned for best performance. Have one with a RAM air system and one without and run them on the 1/4 mile. That's all the proof you'll need. Re: catback, he didn't ask about catback, but anything you can do to help the engine breathe better helps with efficiency and power, like it or not. The gains with catback aren't large but there is a power gain (admittedly small.) Once you start adding other mods, aftermarket catback becomes more important to help the engine breathe more easily.

Believe what you want, I've had my cars both ways and there is no doubt more power with a CAI. So "don't be mad you didn't spend your money on one, people all make mistakes".

 

LOL what ever helps you sleep at night

 

Now now children, fight nice.

If you're dead set on the open filter type of intake, you should try the K&N. It can be found a lot cheaper than most others and you can drill/cut holes in the lower grille/fascia piece to allow colder air to reach them. Yello3 had some very nice times doing this. Might want to contact him.

 

Sorry that is not true.

The only difference between dynos runs 5 and 7 was the intake. Car was cooled to the same temp for these two runs.

There is a big difference between OEM and after market products and there is a difference bewteen aftermarket products.

 

We see the improvements every day on the dyno, and quite often at the track. Stock is the best GM has done to date, but put a Calloway Honker on and the dyno will show a definate gain.

 

Hmmm, looks like some proof to me. I guess I'll continue to sleep at night..

 

I used the blackwing on my C5; definte Hp gains and rear wheel, but...not recommended on a C6. They say no gains, just a waste of $$$ I ordered Halltech, but then cancelled after read posts on the forum.

 

Is there a difference between Stinger and Blackwing filteration media? They "look" the same. Are they both manufactured by Donaldson?

 

if you going to buy an intake, spend your money on a ram air like the vararam which i love or the honker, both seem to h about the same power, you do have to cut the shroud though

 

I noticed a definate differece in seat of the pants feel with Jim's set up. Dyno this Friday to see the what it's done there. I had the Blackwing on my C5, and it was great, but the C6 Halltech is so much larger than the lackwing, it has to flow more. I assume that helps, but we'll see.

 

That is not necessarily true. The stock engine has certain flow capabilities. I don't think it is limited by the size of the filter. There have been tests with no filter and have shown little to no gains. The size of the filter is not of much consequence.

Here is my opinion. The safest and easiest air intake, without cutting the shroud but producing power gains, would be the Haltech with the CAI option. You could also get the K&N and make your own CAI by drilling/cutting holes similar to Haltech's design. The next best setup would be one of the higher mounted units that cuts the shroud. Calloway Honker and LPE seem to be the most popular choices. And the most popular, and the one that seems to make the most improvements, is the Vararam. This however requires extensive cutting of the shroud and also has the potential risk of water ingestion. Which I personally don't think is much of a concern.

The safer you go the less power potential.

K&N w/DIY CAI---easiest & safest: better than stock but least power potential

Haltech w/CAI---easiest & safest:better than stock but least power potential

Honker/LPE---Cut shroud w/high mounted filter w/slight risk of water ingestion:improvements over stock and open filter units

Vararam---Cut shroud w/ram-air scoop(most likely to ingest water):shows the best gains of them all

I should mention, while there may be a risk of water ingestion with the VR or cut shroud units. After having the VR installed on my car, I think it is highly unlikely under all but the most severe of wet situations. I hope this helps a little and best of luck with you decision.

 

don't forget about the ones where you cut 2 holes on the shroud and flip the stock filter housing upside down, using this method you shouldn't be using the paper filter.