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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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just a quick question, does anyone have the details on the msd coils for the ls2 ? longer duration ? hotter spark ? recommended plug gap, etc.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Let me ask you this, If you start a forest fire with a match or blow torch,doesn't the fire still start? If you think increased voltage will make the flame propagation travel any faster across the quinch area in a highly compressed enviroment, I think you're mistaken. MSD makes quality products. There coils are just as good as factory. All of the great tunners in this country making 700+ HP blown cars use the stock factory coil. If they thought MSD coils would make a big improvement, believe me they would be using them. BTW there about $800 a set. That's half way to a cam and spring install which will make you a lot more power. My .02 cents


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Originally Posted by andreas g.
Let me ask you this, If you start a forest fire with a match or blow torch,doesn't the fire still start? If you think increased voltage will make the flame propagation travel any faster across the quinch area in a highly compressed enviroment, I think you're mistaken. MSD makes quality products. There coils are just as good as factory. All of the great tunners in this country making 700+ HP blown cars use the stock factory coil. If they thought MSD coils would make a big improvement, believe me they would be using them. BTW there about $800 a set. That's half way to a cam and spring install which will make you a lot more power. My .02 cents


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I looked at the price and thought the same thing.
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MSD provides multiple spark.............. but you are fine with the stock units.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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MSD provides multiple spark.............. but you are fine with the stock units.
That is only an lower RPM's, higher the RPM less time for multiple sparks. Also I've made over 700RWHP using stock coils without an ignition problem. I think I could find something that would give me more bang for the buck than some purty red coils that will be hidden under the covers.
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That is only an lower RPM's, higher the RPM less time for multiple sparks. Also I've made over 700RWHP using stock coils without an ignition problem. I think I could find something that would give me more bang for the buck than some purty red coils that will be hidden under the covers.

I Agree. Only good for looks if you have exposed fuel rails. No HP increase. I would love to have a set but $ spent best elsewhere.

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My experience with aftermarket coils are with a BMW, not a corvette. That being said, they were expensive and not worth the money. There was no noticeable improvement and in fact, I had to remove them because of faulty design which caused extreme radio interference. Sold them after 100 miles of use for about a third of what I paid for them. YMMV
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if they are like their wires look out. Waste of money unless you have tons!
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Originally Posted by John Shiels
if they are like their wires look out. Waste of money unless you have tons!
i don't know anything about their wires, i used to use Moroso Blue Max Spark Plug Wires.

the msd 6a box i used on my camaro was excellent, i was just wondering if their 'coil packs' were any good.
i never did find a good coil for that setup, in the camaro, i kept burning them up. the last one msd blaster, seems to be holding up but i had a problem of others 'boiling' and 'leaking' oil.

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Waste of precious HP dollars you will not see any difference using an MSD spark.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zig
i i never did find a good coil for that setup, in the camaro, i kept burning them up. the last one msd blaster, seems to be holding up but i had a problem of others 'boiling' and 'leaking' oil.


Funny you should mention that... burned up three Crane Coils on my Camaro... went back to something non-cdi coil... but the Crane Hi6 multispark was excellent...
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ne one used them or we just bench racing here....they sure look cool!!
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Originally Posted by black05c6z51
ne one used them or we just bench racing here....they sure look cool!!
Blown LS2 based 402 (not in the C6), 717rwhp, no ignition based problems, granted that is only at 10psi. At higher boost levels it may become an issue and I will have to address that problem if and when it happens. But for 99% of this board I would think they are a waste of $$$$. Then again I think most appearance mods are a waste of $$$$.

Just like John's wire post, if the stock ones are working then there is nothing to be gained by buying "better" wires.
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
Let me ask you this, If you start a forest fire with a match or blow torch,doesn't the fire still start? If you think increased voltage will make the flame propagation travel any faster across the quinch area in a highly compressed enviroment, I think you're mistaken. MSD makes quality products. There coils are just as good as factory. All of the great tunners in this country making 700+ HP blown cars use the stock factory coil. If they thought MSD coils would make a big improvement, believe me they would be using them. BTW there about $800 a set. That's half way to a cam and spring install which will make you a lot more power. My .02 cents


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but with the muti spark couldn't you possibly see better drivability down in the lower rpms.... i understand the if the wire works don't replace it idea but if you dont try it you can't say it don't work. i agree a 7 mm wire to a 8.5 will not add hp but this is diffrent if you ask me. i mean my headers worked but they are still in the corner
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Originally Posted by black05c6z51
but with the muti spark couldn't you possibly see better drivability down in the lower rpms.... i understand the if the wire works don't replace it idea but if you dont try it you can't say it don't work. i agree a 7 mm wire to a 8.5 will not add hp but this is diffrent if you ask me. i mean my headers worked but they are still in the corner
If you have unburned fuel left over from the first spark you have other issues. It can only burn so much, with newer design heads to burn much more effectively I don't see how there can by enough unburnt fuel to ignite again. Maybe on a untuned carb setup, but in closed loop I don't see it running that rich.
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Originally Posted by Zig
just a quick question, does anyone have the details on the msd coils for the ls2 ? longer duration ? hotter spark ? recommended plug gap, etc.
I say go ahead and buy em. Probably help you out that tm problem you have.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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I say go ahead and buy em. Probably help you out that tm problem you have.


tm problem, more like traction problem.
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