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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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I'm shipping my 'vette over to France for LeMans in June. Gonna need to make a checklist before putting the car in the container for about 3 weeks. I figure Stabil in gas, windows down, disconnect battery, bring along one of those battery jump starters. Anything else?
Also, what besides window indexing do I need to reset when I reconnect the battery at the other end?
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I'm shipping my 'vette over to France for LeMans in June. Gonna need to make a checklist before putting the car in the container for about 3 weeks. I figure Stabil in gas, windows down, disconnect battery, bring along one of those battery jump starters. Anything else?
Also, what besides window indexing do I need to reset when I reconnect the battery at the other end?
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I've shipped vehicles to Germany and back.....For just three weeks I don't think you need Stabil. It won't hurt but probably not needed. Disconnecting the battery might not be a bad idea. If the battery is disconnected I doubt you'd need the jump starter as there would be almost no drain - some but not enough to keep it from starting after three weeks. Having both windows down an inch would help to get back in. From what I've read here, the indexing of the windows should be the only thing you need thing you need to do. Many here have disconneted their batteries and the reindexing of the windows was all they needed to do. But, I'm not sure they had them disconnected for three weeks. Enjoy your trip.
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You might want to see what voltage is provided at the outlets. I think it's different than the 120v in the US.
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You might want to see what voltage is provided at the outlets. I think it's different than the 120v in the US.
Excellent point!

I'd also check-on license requirements....would you need an International driver's license?

From my limited experience with a dead battery, all I had to do was re-index the windows. Also, why would you need to leave the windows down? Even if your battery is dead or disconnected, it should be easy enough to access the vehicle using the key above the rear license plate.
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Just planning to leave the windows down 1 inch so as not to have interference when opening door without power to index the window down.
I'm trying to find tie down instructions for inside the container too.
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What does that cost to ship there and back ?
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Originally Posted by gmoller
Just planning to leave the windows down 1 inch so as not to have interference when opening door without power to index the window down.
I'm trying to find tie down instructions for inside the container too.
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My suggestion would be don't ship it with the windows down, that's a bad thing waiting to happen. You can open the doors regardless, I have done it when I had DBS while I was in AK. Car sat for a few weeks after my wife was unable to start it before I got home and it was totally dead when I got here. I was told the door was designed to open with little force in this scenario and it proved true. You can try disconnecting the battery at home and checking this out yourself. On the other hand it doesn't however want to close easily with no power. Shouldn't be a problem though because you can pop your hood, reconnect your battery which should still be hot, light it off and then re-index the windows.
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What does that cost to ship there and back ?
Somewhere between 1.5 - 2K each way in container.
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The windows are left down in the container with the battery diconnected. Make sure they disconnect the negative and not the positive.

Window is left down so customs can get into the car and the person that drives the car into the container has to climb out the window. there is NO way to open the door and get out. period.

No staybil in the gas tank. There is NO GAS allowed in the tank. The shipper will drain the gas to the reserve level by pumping out the gas or they will let your car idle for hours until the tank has only a few drops in it.

On the other end the shipper will have jump packs and a little gas if required. I've done this 6 times so far and it's really not a big deal.

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Here are a few pictures of my cars being prepped and shipped.

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blocking the wheels


windows down with a car cover.

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My suggestion would be don't ship it with the windows down, that's a bad thing waiting to happen. You can open the doors regardless, I have done it when I had DBS while I was in AK. Car sat for a few weeks after my wife was unable to start it before I got home and it was totally dead when I got here. I was told the door was designed to open with little force in this scenario and it proved true. You can try disconnecting the battery at home and checking this out yourself. On the other hand it doesn't however want to close easily with no power. Shouldn't be a problem though because you can pop your hood, reconnect your battery which should still be hot, light it off and then re-index the windows.
Its best to ship with the windows down. there is not enough room to open the door to reach in to pop the hood or do whatever is needed to look inside. would you want someone opening your door with only a few inches of room? you won't have paint left on the door as they slap it against the side of the container.

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No staybil in the gas tank. There is NO GAS allowed in the tank. The shipper will drain the gas to the reserve level by draining the tank or they will let your car idle for hours until the tank has only a few drops in it. .


...in that case Gary, if you need someone to run the gas out of your tank, drop me a note

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Excellent point!

I'd also check-on license requirements....would you need an International driver's license?

From my limited experience with a dead battery, all I had to do was re-index the windows. Also, why would you need to leave the windows down? Even if your battery is dead or disconnected, it should be easy enough to access the vehicle using the key above the rear license plate.

For a US citizen to drive their car in Germany / most of europe you must have the following:

1. title. (not a photocopy)
2. Valid US registration
3. US plates
4. EURO insurance (double sided green card)
5. passport

Customs wants to see the title.

with those 5 things you can ship your car to europe and drive for 1 year in germany / most of europe.

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Also you need a International Drivers License (AAA for $10.00) Call GEICO for the insurance in Germany as they do offer service there.
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Originally Posted by Bluewasp
Its best to ship with the windows down. there is not enough room to open the door to reach in to pop the hood or do whatever is needed to look inside. would you want someone opening your door with only a few inches of room? you won't have paint left on the door as they slap it against the side of the container.
Yep, see what you mean. I had never thought of that angle. I dont like the idea of leaving a window open but I can see that its unavoidable.
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Also you need a International Drivers License (AAA for $10.00) Call GEICO for the insurance in Germany as they do offer service there.
You do not need the AAA "International Drivers License" It's not a valid license.

Gary, Have your passport, us license, and paperwork for the car an you will be fine.

I would advise reading up the rules of the road. The European Priority sign system is something you should be VERY familiary with BEFORE you leave the port...

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These are the signs i'm talking about.








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Yup, I had to memorize all the signs when I was stationed in Bitburg.
I'll have to refresh my memory, though.
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Originally Posted by gmoller
I'm shipping my 'vette over to France for LeMans in June. Gonna need to make a checklist before putting the car in the container for about 3 weeks. I figure Stabil in gas, windows down, disconnect battery, bring along one of those battery jump starters. Anything else?
Also, what besides window indexing do I need to reset when I reconnect the battery at the other end?
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Don't you have to drain the gas from the tank? Can't it build up dangerous levels of fumes inside the container, or is the container vented?
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Don't you have to drain the gas from the tank? Can't it build up dangerous levels of fumes inside the container, or is the container vented?
No, you do not have to drain any of the fluids. Actually, an empty tank produces more fumes. It's preferrable not to have a full tank of fuel in the vehicle. Unless there is a spill, fumes generally are not an issue in a steamship container - they are not airtight. The only time you need to drain the tank and run the vehicle until it's empty is if it's moving via airfreight
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