Couldn't pull away..! WTF!?
Allow me further elaboration, and this is totally my opinion. I have had my fair share of trial and errors:
1) Tuning: Whenever you introduce a cam into a motor you are essentially changing the manner on which the car will behave...the whole package is now altered. A good tuning however, will/can make all the pieces come together but only if you or whomever had carefully chosen all the pieces. I've seen many people add a cam into a car and go slower; they may sound mean as hell but run worth a damn. If all your parts were chosen properly for your set up...ie TB, heads, intake and so on, then a good tuning can yield 20 to 30 additional rear wheel horses or more!
2) If I recall correctly, the Z51 C6 is lighter than your Automatic C6. Taking that into consideration, the package of that Z51 is such that it works around it’s given components. In other words, the whole thing was designed to maximize and complement what’s there (suspension, braking and power band due to gearing). Your friend essentially improved the already decently stout stock set up by adding headers (better exhaust flow) and CAI (better breathing capabilities).
3) Gearing plays a huge role. Remember, he has 3.42 gears PLUS his trans is geared to totally take advantage of the giving powerband of the LS2 mill with stock heads and cam. Great trans gearing was one of the C5 Z06’s advantages over the C5 coupes, Verts and FRC's.
Your improvement of let's say 30 to 40 rear wheel HP from stock will roughly net you about 2 to 2.5 tenth AND possibly 1.5 to 2.0 mph gain in the 1/4 mile considering your current weight and choice of transmission. By the sound of your set up, I believe that you really need a properly stalled torque converter to take full advantage of the new cam. Remember, if everything being equal (traction/power and driver) automatics really has an advantage over sticks from a stand still. Your particular combo vs his from a rolling start is not a big advantage right now over his better geared rear end and trans, lighter chassis and possibly better tuned Vette. Now, once you get that bad boy tuned and do something about that converter, you will smoke him from any point (rolling or standing start).
Replacing gears is a good idea, but if I were you, I would do Converter before a rear gears. The cost of gears and a torque converter I believe is about the same. Torque converters are typically good for at least a 0.3 tenth in ET reduction and it will compliment your new cam a little better than the gears at this point. In fact, a converter will "wake up" that semi-sleeping beast!
Again, this is just my opinion and this is what I've seen work on automatic C5's, 5.0's, Fbody's and also GN's.
Thanks

.. Now I want a 3.42.. Shipping it will cost more than buying it though
.. They sound quite promising at an outstanding price but i'm waiting for more real-life results.. I'm not in the mood to be someone else's guinea pig..!
I'm sure both items with compliment the setup especially the cam!
Just outta curiousity, if you're running an aftermarket heads/manifold combo, what is it and what kind of gains did you get?
Last edited by Z51 6spd; Jan 18, 2007 at 01:56 PM.
I have several race videos posted on my myspace page http://www.myspace.com/rickschildge pulling a new C6 Z06 and a new Viper..
I think my heads/intake selection are a big part of why my car runs so well... - especially when you consider I have a very small cam.... 215/232....
Last edited by xstang; Jan 18, 2007 at 02:26 PM.
I have several race videos posted on my myspace page http://www.myspace.com/rickschildge pulling a new C6 Z06 and a new Viper..
I think my heads/intake selection are a big part of why my car runs so well... - especially when you consider I have a very small cam.... 215/232....
If you are running under 600 lift, the AFR 205s would be perfect (with a 228 cam)... If you run bigger cam 230+ or more lift, my preference is AFR 225 small bore heads.... The 225s also give you more room if you decide to up the cubes later...
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If you are running under 600 lift, the AFR 205s would be perfect (with a 228 cam)... If you run bigger cam 230+ or more lift, my preference is AFR 225 small bore heads.... The 225s also give you more room if you decide to up the cubes later...
Also look at the exhaust flow on those L92s heads compared to the AFRs? They don't even break 200....
AFR 0.100 0.200 0.300 0.400 0.500 0.550 0.600 0.650 0.700 0.800
Intake 68.6 152.9 217.4 263.9 300.7 318.6
Exhaust 58.6 115.9 168.8 205.4 219.8 229.9 232.5 235.69
L92s
Lift Intake Flow Exhaust Flow
(inches) (CFM) (CFM)
0.1 79.2 57.8
0.2 153 114.4
0.3 225 147.2
0.4 276 170.3
0.5 309.6 183.1
0.55 323.2 186
0.6 332.2 189.5
0.65 327.7 191.1
I'm not saying that you can't throw in a huge Cam and make better numbers than I am with my baby 215 duration cam.. I'm just saying the AFRs with the FAST intake will out perform the L92s L76 with the same cam...
They picked up 44RWHP switching the Heads and intake on a LS2.. I picked up closer to 60RWHP..... Sorry if I sound aggressive, I'm just passionate (-:
Last edited by xstang; Jan 19, 2007 at 09:45 AM.












