Z06 Conversion Questions
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Z06 Conversion Questions
Okay, I have finished the insatllation of the rear fenders and purchased a set of OEM Z06 wheels and stock tires. Will I encounter any issues with the tires/rims fitting my C6. I am especially concerned with the front. I won't have the Z06 front conversion completed for a few months, big bucks $$$. Can I still mount the front rims/tires?
Burning Brakes
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Okay, I have finished the insatllation of the rear fenders and purchased a set of OEM Z06 wheels and stock tires. Will I encounter any issues with the tires/rims fitting my C6. I am especially concerned with the front. I won't have the Z06 front conversion completed for a few months, big bucks $$$. Can I still mount the front rims/tires?
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Melting Slicks
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C6Rluver's and mine are twins separted at birth
I have done the rear quarters but not done the fronts yet, and am running the stock Z06 tires and wheels no problems aside from the fronts stick out past the fenders.
I have done the rear quarters but not done the fronts yet, and am running the stock Z06 tires and wheels no problems aside from the fronts stick out past the fenders.
Drifting
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Hummmm....
If you add up what you've spent in parts and labor, and what you 're about to spend, and I assume you're going into the motor, because if you want it to look like a Z06 then it should run like one; then why didn't you just buy a Z06??? I bet the price would be about the same.
Am I missing something here???
Am I missing something here???
Burning Brakes
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If you add up what you've spent in parts and labor, and what you 're about to spend, and I assume you're going into the motor, because if you want it to look like a Z06 then it should run like one; then why didn't you just buy a Z06??? I bet the price would be about the same.
Am I missing something here???
Am I missing something here???
Yes Motor will be Supercharged soon, or some similar power adder, anything but crummy NOS..
Still will be saving ton of money over buying a new Z06....
Burning Brakes
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but both our C6's are lowered perfectly now, unlike his older picture the ride is very nice... 
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09
If you add up what you've spent in parts and labor, and what you 're about to spend, and I assume you're going into the motor, because if you want it to look like a Z06 then it should run like one; then why didn't you just buy a Z06??? I bet the price would be about the same.
Am I missing something here???
Am I missing something here???
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09
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Probably only 1 in 6 are bare bones Vettes, so more like 50K for new coupe. Same on new loaded Z06 at 78K. It's a no brainer to me, Z06 + mod $ = way to much.
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Melting Slicks
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actually my 06 1lt with Z51 cost me $40,995. The total for my paint work and Gm parts at cost is going to be about $3700(with me doing the labor to install on the car). Buy selling my Comp Greys and Z51 tires I was able to pretty much pay for my Z06 wheels and tires and powdercoat. So for around $46K I will have my widebody Targa top C6 not Z06. Granted its not a Z but its still one hell of a car.
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You are missing the math. New Z06 is $75K + TTL. New coupe is $40K. Add a supercharger or TT kit to get more than Z06 power - $14K. Add the Z06 front/rear fenders $4100(parts) + $1500(paint/install. Add $3500 for new wheels (even wider than the Z06). Total is $63.1K. You now have a vette with more power, better traction, with great looks for $12K less. You will beat the Z06 in the 1/4 by 0.5 sec or better.
Personaly, I've never moded the outside appearance of a car, and I've had 5 vetts. I've always just modded the motor and suspension etc. I guess I like the sleeper look. My next car will be a Z06 and I will only mod the motor. That's just me. Outside stays stock. BTW as well you already know; all this money spent on mods woun't get you a dime more on the market. It's money spent for our enjoyment only. Cars are not an investment, there a consumable product. The $23,000 you mentioned in your thread and my $12,000 is gone. Nature of the beast.
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My next car will be a Z06 and I will only mod the motor. That's just me. Outside stays stock.
BTW as well you already know; all this money spent on mods woun't get you a dime more on the market. It's money spent for our enjoyment only. Cars are not an investment, there a consumable product. The $23,000 you mentioned in your thread and my $12,000 is gone. Nature of the beast.
BTW as well you already know; all this money spent on mods woun't get you a dime more on the market. It's money spent for our enjoyment only. Cars are not an investment, there a consumable product. The $23,000 you mentioned in your thread and my $12,000 is gone. Nature of the beast.
I wouldn't believe for a minute there is any member of this forum that would not realize from the start that these mods are nothing more than personal preference and are in no delirious state of mind to think any of this is for a future financial gain. We all undestand it's disposable cash.
Le Mans Master
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You are missing the math. New Z06 is $75K + TTL. New coupe is $40K. Add a supercharger or TT kit to get more than Z06 power - $14K. Add the Z06 front/rear fenders $4100(parts) + $1500(paint/install. Add $3500 for new wheels (even wider than the Z06). Total is $63.1K. You now have a vette with more power, better traction, with great looks for $12K less. You will beat the Z06 in the 1/4 by 0.5 sec or better.
If this is true,congrats, you're deep into the 10's.......I ran an 11.51 bone stock on my 06 Z06 the very first time down the track.
And I don't have one of the faster times posted....about average.
Le Mans Master
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Some of you guys are forgetting if you resell the car your mods are basically going to add very little to the resale of the vehicle. Mod money is mad money, you don't get it back. The Z06 will hold it's value reference to it's initial sticker price. It will depreciate of course but not like the money spent on mods.
Of course like mentioned above no one should consider modding or even buying a new vette an investment anyway.
There are good reasons to do this though, like removable roof, six speed auto, and convertible options, things that are not available on a Z06.
Personally I like my coupe the way it is.
Of course like mentioned above no one should consider modding or even buying a new vette an investment anyway.
There are good reasons to do this though, like removable roof, six speed auto, and convertible options, things that are not available on a Z06.
Personally I like my coupe the way it is.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09
MTI's devilray package has run 10.55 at 131 mph. Don't get me wrong, I think alot of the C6Z and probably would have bought it as my base car except that it wasn't available in 2005 and even today the price is too damn high for what you get. You can make better for much less and save the extra $$ for gas, tires, brakes, and fun. JMHO.
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MTI's devilray package has run 10.55 at 131 mph. Don't get me wrong, I think alot of the C6Z and probably would have bought it as my base car except that it wasn't available in 2005 and even today the price is too damn high for what you get. You can make better for much less and save the extra $$ for gas, tires, brakes, and fun. JMHO.
what does mti's devilray package consist of? are there any driveline components added in with the cost to handle additional power output? clutch, tranny? does it come with a warranty? have you seen someone try and sell a "devilray" packaged car and did they recoup any of that money over a base c6 car?
these are the full picture/cost equation questions that have to be factored in when un-warrantied driveline parts shatter and the day comes when you decide to sell the car.
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Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09
what is mti's devilray package consist of? are there any driveline components added in with the cost to handle additional power output? clutch, tranny? does it come with a warranty? have you seen someone try and sell a "devilray" packaged car and did they recoup any of that money over a base c6 car?
these are the full picture cost/equation questions that have to be factored in when un-warrantied driveline parts shatter and the day comes when you decide to sell the car.
these are the full picture cost/equation questions that have to be factored in when un-warrantied driveline parts shatter and the day comes when you decide to sell the car.
http://www.motorsporttech.com/print/...rochure01.html
The short answers to your questions follow:
Upgraded clutch and flywheel (Spec 3). Upgraded output shafts in diff. It does come with a 2 year, 24,000 mile warranty. They are only going to be 25 of these made - I think they are up to the mid teens in current builds. I have only seen 1 Devilray sold and it went for $70K - close to recoup costs, but in truth I don't plan to sell and if I did I would be prepared to lose most/all of the conversion costs. This is a fun car - not an investment for me. The money I have spent on it was disposable and was done to make the car more enjoyable for me only.
I would suggest that anyone who is overly concerned with factory warranties, reselling costs, and the like should not consider modifying their cars at all. In fact, they may be better off with a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. YMMV.
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thats a fine package I'm sure. but don't mock me with the camry/accord dribble just because you think resell or warranties aren't a factor? they are to 99% of vette owners. if only upfront dollars are important to you, thats fine. but the rest of the world realizes transactions do usually come full circle....take that from someone who has been left with the task of selling modified cars. it ain't usually pretty for the pocket book
mti has had that package out for several years now. I sat in the yellow 7.0 liter very soon after it was completed. the car was very nice and made excellent power. however, with all the factory 427s running around these days, I don't see a devil ray selling for 70 used today. especially after they elapse that 24 month warranty. what does someone do in kentucky if you have an issue during warranty coverage? where do you take it? flatbed back to houston?
mti has had that package out for several years now. I sat in the yellow 7.0 liter very soon after it was completed. the car was very nice and made excellent power. however, with all the factory 427s running around these days, I don't see a devil ray selling for 70 used today. especially after they elapse that 24 month warranty. what does someone do in kentucky if you have an issue during warranty coverage? where do you take it? flatbed back to houston?
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