Cartek C6 to C5 rear conversion
Drifting
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From: Winfield IL
What about an M6 2007??? im making 391RWHP 392RWTQ, and i just purchased new rims for my Mickey Thompson Drag radials. Are the 2007's stronger than 2006? and or the 2005's? What are the differences.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
Drifting
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From: NJ
Shocker, did your friend's case break like mine? On a slick I'd be inclined to think the shaft might have broken. I haven't seen any instances of this, but I'd like to know. I do know of one of the u-joints in the axle breaking but as of yet I have not seen a C6 shaft break.
Race Director
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From: Southampton NJ
Shocker, did your friend's case break like mine? On a slick I'd be inclined to think the shaft might have broken. I haven't seen any instances of this, but I'd like to know. I do know of one of the u-joints in the axle breaking but as of yet I have not seen a C6 shaft break.
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Burning Brakes
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What about an M6 2007??? im making 391RWHP 392RWTQ, and i just purchased new rims for my Mickey Thompson Drag radials. Are the 2007's stronger than 2006? and or the 2005's? What are the differences.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Because I have seen Cartek rear diffs propel the front wheels of the car off the ground and the diffs stayed together. You seem to think that DTE is superior in some way and you should go ahead with what you feel best with. I think it would be foolish to think that Cartek, ECS, ...ect that have cars in the 8's and 9's can't build a rear as good as anyone can. They are as good as it gets and for 1700 installed you can pay more if you want.
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From: Houston TX
St. Jude Donor '11
Can someone explain what exactly is difference is in the '06+ diffs that prevents one being mounted to an '05 tranny? Is it the mating between the tranny and diff? I can't see the rear of the tranny changing from '05 to '06.Also, I'm curious to see what the Cartek C5 diff kit is made up of and it's cost.
I never thought I'd see the day a C5 diff would be considered an "upgrade"...
I never thought I'd see the day a C5 diff would be considered an "upgrade"...
Last edited by 5 Liter Eater; Mar 21, 2007 at 02:36 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
What about an M6 2007??? im making 391RWHP 392RWTQ, and i just purchased new rims for my Mickey Thompson Drag radials. Are the 2007's stronger than 2006? and or the 2005's? What are the differences.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
i saw your friends 2006 break at the track as well shockerracing, and that car was on the same tire i am running.
Early on in 2005 there were guys reporting stock power with stock runflats breaking the cases. Wheel hop is gonna do it regardless of power level.
RJ dropped his clutch at 1100rpm for that carnage.
Team Owner
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Umm, you do know about the little change in the automatic transmissions from 2005 to 2006 don't you? 
So we know the change in automatics could've very easily caused change to the rear of the tranny but it doesn't make as much sense that the rear of the manuals would've changed as well. From I understand they did make some alterations so that 1) the rear would be a little stronger for 2006 and 2) that there would some common fitment for production/manufacturing reasons between the otherwise unchanged manual and the new automatic for 2006 as they mate the new rear?
So we know the change in automatics could've very easily caused change to the rear of the tranny but it doesn't make as much sense that the rear of the manuals would've changed as well. From I understand they did make some alterations so that 1) the rear would be a little stronger for 2006 and 2) that there would some common fitment for production/manufacturing reasons between the otherwise unchanged manual and the new automatic for 2006 as they mate the new rear?
Melting Slicks
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From: NJ..."the way I saw it, everyone takes a beating sometimes."
If I recall correctly, it's the case that's different between the '05 and '06/'07. So I would imagine the way it fits and mounts must be slightly different, causing it to not be interchangeable. Of course there has been an instance or two when I didn't know what the hell I was talking about.:o
Drifting
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From: NJ
Lol, yup, I was trying to baby it out of the hole. But when it hits, it hits. I got wheel hop at around the 30' mark and that was all she wrote.
Burning Brakes
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My buddies 06 cracked the case immediately at the line on a 17" DR, no wheel hop because the car never moved. If I remember correctly they said that the output shaft snapped which took out the rear end breaking the case and also damaged the trans! His case did not break all the way around but it did get a pretty long crack up the side!
Now my 05 I had been running a 16" Mickey Thompson ET Street and never had a problem.... needless to say I have not put the ET Streets on since his car broke though! I need to figure out what the best rear end setup will be for my car especially considering I plan to put the APS Kit on the car! I was thinking the DTE Stage 3 but only because I was not aware that Cartek made a built rear end for the C6's! I would be intereted if they posted up some info.
Now my 05 I had been running a 16" Mickey Thompson ET Street and never had a problem.... needless to say I have not put the ET Streets on since his car broke though! I need to figure out what the best rear end setup will be for my car especially considering I plan to put the APS Kit on the car! I was thinking the DTE Stage 3 but only because I was not aware that Cartek made a built rear end for the C6's! I would be intereted if they posted up some info.
Last edited by ShockerRacing; Mar 22, 2007 at 02:26 PM.
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From: Short Hills, NJ
My buddies 06 cracked the case immediately at the line on a 17" DR, no wheel hop because the car never moved. If I remember correctly they said that the output shaft snapped which took out the rear end breaking the case and also damaged the trans! His case did not break all the way around but it did get a pretty long crack up the side!
Now my 05 I had been running a 16" Mickey Thompson ET Street and never had a problem.... needless to say I have not put the ET Streets on since his car broke though!
Now my 05 I had been running a 16" Mickey Thompson ET Street and never had a problem.... needless to say I have not put the ET Streets on since his car broke though!
