Traction Control
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Traction Control
Silly question, but as a general rule, will the Traction Control keep the car from breaking loose? I am talking from stand still, straight line on a semi aggressive take off. With TC on how aggressive on a scale from 1 - 10 would cause the car to come around, where 1 is let off the clutch and ease into and 10 is dump the clutch and hammer it. The reason I ask is I read how easy some folks loose the back end, and haven't even broken mine loose yet. Not that I want to smoke them, just curious what others are seeing. Guess is I am just being too easy, but. What about first to second?
I have a 07 Z51 MZ6. I have about 700 miles on the car, and have had it a little over a month. The outside temp is say 60 - 70.
I have a 07 Z51 MZ6. I have about 700 miles on the car, and have had it a little over a month. The outside temp is say 60 - 70.
Drifting
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Even with T/C don't get a false sense of security. You are fine with straight launches, give some credit to the T/M too. it's pulling out of a gas station which will get you.
I have all the electronics turned off, due to the suspension mods, etc, and haven't broken loose yet, but then again, I am very mindful of it. I know it could happen anytime if I was forgetful.
I have all the electronics turned off, due to the suspension mods, etc, and haven't broken loose yet, but then again, I am very mindful of it. I know it could happen anytime if I was forgetful.
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To be honest, I don't see where TC does a lot. I've had the rear end fishtail all over with everything on. BUT what does make a difference is AH. I've just started turning off TC and AH at the autox and it's a whole new ballgame. Car will spin out of control very easy.
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No, it won't completely keep you from breaking traction. If the road is dry and you're not pulling out of a driveway or something like that you have to be pretty aggressive. I've never had it happen like that on accident. If you rev it up past 3k and are fairly quick off the clutch, you'll get some slip. I find it easier to break traction with aggressive clutch control instead of just mashing the gas, likely due to TM. But give the throttle a quick stab while doing a U turn, and the rear will whip around very quickly. 
On a hard 1-2 shift it'll spin, but just a bit. The tail may wag but as long as you're going straight you're good to just keep your foot in it. Mine didn't do this right after break in, but after I got some more miles on it. With new tires it still does it, so I know it wasn't just the tires.
I think most of the time when people spin, it's from abrupt inputs. AH will do a very good job of keeping the car straight if things are fairly smooth, like too much oversteer coming out of a curve. It's great at high speed corrections. At low speeds, it takes some sudden movements to slide around, and those kind of things are way too severe for electronics to compensate for.
On a hard 1-2 shift it'll spin, but just a bit. The tail may wag but as long as you're going straight you're good to just keep your foot in it. Mine didn't do this right after break in, but after I got some more miles on it. With new tires it still does it, so I know it wasn't just the tires.
I think most of the time when people spin, it's from abrupt inputs. AH will do a very good job of keeping the car straight if things are fairly smooth, like too much oversteer coming out of a curve. It's great at high speed corrections. At low speeds, it takes some sudden movements to slide around, and those kind of things are way too severe for electronics to compensate for.
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No, it won't completely keep you from breaking traction. If the road is dry and you're not pulling out of a driveway or something like that you have to be pretty aggressive. I've never had it happen like that on accident. If you rev it up past 3k and are fairly quick off the clutch, you'll get some slip. I find it easier to break traction with aggressive clutch control instead of just mashing the gas, likely due to TM. But give the throttle a quick stab while doing a U turn, and the rear will whip around very quickly.
On a hard 1-2 shift it'll spin, but just a bit. The tail may wag but as long as you're going straight you're good to just keep your foot in it. Mine didn't do this right after break in, but after I got some more miles on it. With new tires it still does it, so I know it wasn't just the tires.
I think most of the time when people spin, it's from abrupt inputs. AH will do a very good job of keeping the car straight if things are fairly smooth, like too much oversteer coming out of a curve. It's great at high speed corrections. At low speeds, it takes some sudden movements to slide around, and those kind of things are way too severe for electronics to compensate for.
On a hard 1-2 shift it'll spin, but just a bit. The tail may wag but as long as you're going straight you're good to just keep your foot in it. Mine didn't do this right after break in, but after I got some more miles on it. With new tires it still does it, so I know it wasn't just the tires.
I think most of the time when people spin, it's from abrupt inputs. AH will do a very good job of keeping the car straight if things are fairly smooth, like too much oversteer coming out of a curve. It's great at high speed corrections. At low speeds, it takes some sudden movements to slide around, and those kind of things are way too severe for electronics to compensate for.
Thanks, that is sort of what I was looking for. I have not tried to get ral squirrely just yet. I just have not had any problems loosing the back, and I wasn't sure if I was being a whimp, or it was just pretty good at trying to keep me out of trouble.
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Aggressive throttle in the center of a low speed corner will make the rear break lose. On a straight line from a dead stop you have to be aggressive with both the throttle and clutch to get it to break loose if the temps are high.
