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Old May 19, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
Excuse me but..


The smell that is objectionable (rotten eggs) is sulfur in the fuel reacting with the CATs. If there's no CATs, how can you get the odor? You just may have confused me with that smell problem.

I've been running w/o CATS for 3 years and no odor.

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They aren't complaining about SO2, which I agree is really the objectionable smell, and is only present on catted cars. What they're complaining about is the aroma of partially burned hydrocarbons. I don't find that smell objectionable, and neither do most gearheads, but some people do.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl

I've been running w/o CATS for 3 years and no odor.

Elmer
I bet all those brush fires in your area couldnt deaden your sense of smell anymore -damage is done
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
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Either way you slice it, the so-called high flow cats are a bad choice. On the one hand, they don't do a good job of reducing the already relatively benign HCs because their efficiency is low, and on the other hand they do nothing to reduce NOx (none of the so-called high flow cats are 3 way). And on the third hand, they really don't help performance much if at all either. Just a waste of good money.

Either run with the OEM cats, or do without. Both are better choices than the so-called high flow cats. In my opinion, running with the OEM cats, even relocated if necessary, is the best choice. They have negligible effect on power output, but they do a good job of reducing NOx, the real villian of auto pollution. They keep you legal too, if you don't relocate them. If you do relocate them, they still do their job of reducing NOx, but won't light off as quickly and will allow increases in the relatively benign HC emissions during warm up, but still less than the other alternatives of no cats or using the so-called high flow cats.
If he is going to run long tube headers, it will be impossible for him to run his original catalytic converters still located in their original position.

It would also be very dificult, if not impossible for him to use his original catalytic converters in series with long tube headers.

He'd have to cut them off and weld a flange to them, so that they would mate to the header flange. And then to an X pipe. And then they'd have to tuck underneath the car somewhere in order to provide adequate ground clearance.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
They aren't complaining about SO2, which I agree is really the objectionable smell, and is only present on catted cars. What they're complaining about is the aroma of partially burned hydrocarbons. I don't find that smell objectionable, and neither do most gearheads, but some people do.
Thank you! I actually like the smell of a slightly rich exhaust.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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You know, it does smell richer. However, the color at the exhaust pipe is perfect, the LTFTs are fine and WOT AFR is 13.1. Maybe the nose is more sensitive than numbers.
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