Diablosport Predator Programmer....is it worth it?
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Racer
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From: Fort Irwin CA
Diablosport Predator Programmer....is it worth it?
I am considering purchasing the programmer when I buy my Borla exhaust in the next couple of weeks. Is it worth it? I read some threads on how awesome their customer service dept responds to customers. Can the programmer be detected once you revert the tune back to stock? Besides the exhaust, this would be my only real performance mod (except for k&n filters
). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Kim
). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Kim
Racer
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From: Townsend MA
I suggest just going to your local dyno tuner and having them dyno tune the car for ~200 bucks and be done with it. Unless you are adding mods all the time it seems pointless to own a portable tuning device like that.
Safety Car
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From: Opelika Alabama
very much
Yes!!!! I think it's worth it! I just loaded mine yesterday felt a difference right away, and now I have a code reader, don't have to trust some one else's word, they have good support, website too, I also got the most up to date model built 5-07 I have 2006 mn6 c6 ls2, it was fast,easy,little scarry at first finding the right fuse's to remove, but all,s well, the best way to desribe it is that they took the "rough edges" off the stock tune, it runs smoother, throttle reponse is like having a carb and linkage, with a man.trans thats great! fuel mileage seems better too! it was a well spent $350.00 I'm going the cheap way to little extra HP. predator, x-pipe, AG.roller rockers, shaft mounted, 1.7 feel free to email me Quinn
Pro
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From: Dayton Ohio
Street tune w/ data logging is where you'll get your drivability performance nailed down.
All you can do with a typical dyno tune is dial in wide open throttle performance- that's not where most of your driving will be unless you do nothing but race.
There are many posts on this topic. Good reading!
Former Vendor
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Ugh, I disagree. If you can't find a top quality tune for $500, keep looking. And for that, it should be not just a dyno tune, you should get a street tune complete w/ data logging, and polish it off w/ a dyno tune. That should include the dyno time cost, btw.
Street tune w/ data logging is where you'll get your drivability performance nailed down.
All you can do with a typical dyno tune is dial in wide open throttle performance- that's not where most of your driving will be unless you do nothing but race.
There are many posts on this topic. Good reading!
Street tune w/ data logging is where you'll get your drivability performance nailed down.
All you can do with a typical dyno tune is dial in wide open throttle performance- that's not where most of your driving will be unless you do nothing but race.
There are many posts on this topic. Good reading!
Great points.We at QualityMotorsports/Vette-Air only charge $399 for a tune, and it includes both STREET and DYNO!
Our Grand Opening for June 23rd was postponed due to inlcement weather until Saturday July 21st. We are offering a $100 off the tuning offer, so feel free to stop by. Please visit www.vette-air.com
PM me if you are interested...I am making a list of names.
Thanks,
Carlos
Melting Slicks
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I am considering purchasing the programmer when I buy my Borla exhaust in the next couple of weeks. Is it worth it? I read some threads on how awesome their customer service dept responds to customers. Can the programmer be detected once you revert the tune back to stock? Besides the exhaust, this would be my only real performance mod (except for k&n filters). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Kim
). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Kim
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From: queensbury ny
I have one.2nd time around.I do and did notice an immediate throttle response right after the tune.I bought mine on here for 2 something shipped.These can also be upgraded for free on their website when upgrades come out.I thought about selling mine, bit I'm not.Hell,I may even read the directions to see what else I can do with it!! 
Pro
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From: New Jersey
I was seriously thinking of getting one, but, I could not get their software to work on my home computer. It worked fine at work, just not here. I posted to their forum and received zero in help. This non-response to a problem several others have had as well, made me decide to pass on it.
So, if your really thinking of getting one, download their datalink software from their site and make sure it works on your computer first. Otherwise, you'll have too much difficulty optimizing the tune.
So, if your really thinking of getting one, download their datalink software from their site and make sure it works on your computer first. Otherwise, you'll have too much difficulty optimizing the tune.
Drifting
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From: Ambler Pa.
I am considering purchasing the programmer when I buy my Borla exhaust in the next couple of weeks. Is it worth it? I read some threads on how awesome their customer service dept responds to customers. Can the programmer be detected once you revert the tune back to stock? Besides the exhaust, this would be my only real performance mod (except for k&n filters). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Kim
). What are your guys thoughts....? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Kim
Pro
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From: Dayton Ohio
Great points.We at QualityMotorsports/Vette-Air only charge $399 for a tune, and it includes both STREET and DYNO!
Our Grand Opening for June 23rd was postponed due to inlcement weather until Saturday July 21st. We are offering a $100 off the tuning offer, so feel free to stop by. Please visit www.vette-air.com
PM me if you are interested...I am making a list of names.
Thanks,
Carlos
If the $399 includes the dyno time, that's a hell of a deal, for all you guys considering putting $$ into a handhelp programmer. My next question of vette-air would be: how many LS2s have you tuned, ie what's your experience base, and would you pass on some contact info from past customers to investigate satisfaction level. Sure sounds promising, like a startup company giving a good deal to get going. BTW, I'm happily custom tuned; just trying to help the CF dudes out there trying to dial in.
My take on the tune philosophy: sure, the handheld will let you read codes, but if you get a quality tune, I see no reason you should throw a code unless something breaks. Then you should head to the dealer for your warranty claim anyway, imo.
Pro
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From: Dayton Ohio
All the dyno tune can do is dial in your wide open throttle performance; it's possible to still drive like a piece of crap on the street but have your WOT tuning perfect. $500 is not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
Another point: the closer to stock you are, the less you will benefit from an expensive/comprehensive tune. A dyno tune may be all you need to tune out your skip shift and rear O2 sensors + get your WOT AFR dialed in. Long live CF and the Corvette.
Last edited by opus1111; Jun 24, 2007 at 12:22 AM.
Melting Slicks
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For my $450, I got 4.5 hours of data logged street tuning in addition to 6 pulls on the dyno to settle in on the final tune. I cannot say enough what the immense difference is between a good street tune vs. your run-of-the-mill dyno tune. There is no comparison.
All the dyno tune can do is dial in your wide open throttle performance; it's possible to still drive like a piece of crap on the street but have your WOT tuning perfect. $500 is not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
Another point: the closer to stock you are, the less you will benefit from an expensive/comprehensive tune. A dyno tune may be all you need to tune out your skip shift and rear O2 sensors + get your WOT AFR dialed in. Long live CF and the Corvette.
All the dyno tune can do is dial in your wide open throttle performance; it's possible to still drive like a piece of crap on the street but have your WOT tuning perfect. $500 is not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
Another point: the closer to stock you are, the less you will benefit from an expensive/comprehensive tune. A dyno tune may be all you need to tune out your skip shift and rear O2 sensors + get your WOT AFR dialed in. Long live CF and the Corvette.
Former Vendor
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From: Dallas & Chicago TX & IL
Hijack underway here, but maybe it'll seem acceptable since it's wrt a supporting vendor...
If the $399 includes the dyno time, that's a hell of a deal, for all you guys considering putting $$ into a handhelp programmer. My next question of vette-air would be: how many LS2s have you tuned, ie what's your experience base, and would you pass on some contact info from past customers to investigate satisfaction level. Sure sounds promising, like a startup company giving a good deal to get going. BTW, I'm happily custom tuned; just trying to help the CF dudes out there trying to dial in.
My take on the tune philosophy: sure, the handheld will let you read codes, but if you get a quality tune, I see no reason you should throw a code unless something breaks. Then you should head to the dealer for your warranty claim anyway, imo.
If the $399 includes the dyno time, that's a hell of a deal, for all you guys considering putting $$ into a handhelp programmer. My next question of vette-air would be: how many LS2s have you tuned, ie what's your experience base, and would you pass on some contact info from past customers to investigate satisfaction level. Sure sounds promising, like a startup company giving a good deal to get going. BTW, I'm happily custom tuned; just trying to help the CF dudes out there trying to dial in.
My take on the tune philosophy: sure, the handheld will let you read codes, but if you get a quality tune, I see no reason you should throw a code unless something breaks. Then you should head to the dealer for your warranty claim anyway, imo.
A dial in tune would be much better than any handheld off the shelves programmer unit. We have tuned over 30 LS2 and at least 15 LS7's...there is a reason why we were the FIRST to run 10's and 9's in a Z06 over a year ago! We also tweaked the first Pinks C6 LS2 to run low 10's at the first Pinks "All Out" event here in Dallas Texas last summer. Alex, owner of the Silver A4 C6 is one of our customer, please feel free to contact him on the ricekiller.com forum. He'll tell ya how well we tuned his low 10 sec mill.
We will soon make available our tunes to everyone in the world. We will incorporate our tunes into the Diablo programmer, the consumer will be able to dowload the new program and still be able to make adjustmets to fuel and spark from the given file using the up and down arrows. And if you need any further more indepth tweaks, you simply e-mail your file to us for more tweaks for FREE, and then we email it back so you can re-download into your Diablo and then to your vehicle.
We are currently testing it on a few vehicles in different states, and we should be done in the next 3 to 4 weeks! Stay tune
Thanks,
Carlos
