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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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I had Rick@ Synergy Motorsports tune my stock c6 today.... ..well he did his magic brought it from baseline of 348to 375, well I seen people getting that kinda gains with LTs,cats and tune....Now setting up my budget to get headers and Cats,I wonder what he can get out of them........Thanks Rick





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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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You're exactly right. Some people are getting that much with headers, CAI and tune. Hmm... As long as you are happy with and you can feel the extra power.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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You're exactly right. Some people are getting that much with headers, CAI and tune. Hmm... As long as you are happy with and you can feel the extra power.
Your response seems to come off like you think he wasnt happy with it...

He should be ecstatic to see that much of a power increase with just a tune. Other people are spending thousands more to see the power he just did.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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The Dynapack doesn't use the rear wheels so it typically shows higher power. I'm guessing your car would make around 360 on a Dynojet which is still OUTSTANDING!!!
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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great!
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Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.

Notice that the top of the chart shows FLYWHEEL HP & TQ not Rear Wheel readings.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.
now you just busted his bubble.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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WOW ...Great #'s...Congrats
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.

Notice that the top of the chart shows FLYWHEEL HP & TQ not Rear Wheel readings.
Thanks
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.

Notice that the top of the chart shows FLYWHEEL HP & TQ not Rear Wheel readings.
Exactly. I'm sure Synergy does great tunes, people praise them, but comparing dyno numbers from different dyno's isn't, as you say, apples to apples.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.

Notice that the top of the chart shows FLYWHEEL HP & TQ not Rear Wheel readings.
Actually that is not a completely accurate statement on the part of the software. Flywheel HP and Torque are not the same as the measurements that you would get from a dynapack. Flywheel HP is the measurement of HP you get straight from the FLYWHEEL of the engine, no drivetrain loss at all. Are you telling me that the entire drivetrain consists only of the two rear wheels?

Dynapack measurements may be potentially higher than a dynojet, and certainly a mustang dyno, but the numbers would not be reflective of flywheel/engine horsepower. Actually the term wheel horsepower would still fit, since that is still the amount of power being transmitted to the WHEELS, however, the phrase "horsepower being put to the ground" would be inaccurate
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Dynapack dyno's are garbage. Sorry for sounding like an *** but I've seen it TIME and TIME again. Someone gets a dynapack # and suddenly factory freaks exist again.......on average I see them read consistently 20rwhp higher. On a real dyno your in the upper 350's, which is right about where you should be with only a tune.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Your response seems to come off like you think he wasnt happy with it...

He should be ecstatic to see that much of a power increase with just a tune. Other people are spending thousands more to see the power he just did.
Actually I wasn't sure about my response. But I thought something was weird about the tremendous amount of hp for a stock C6 with tune only. I believe most stock C6's are getting between 350-360 on the average. With Melrose headers, CAI, ported intake/Tb and tune my results were 379/366. Initially, I just thought maybe this car is one of a kind. However after reading the replies, it doesn't appear that way. Now, there is a stock C6 Z06 that produced 475 rwhp, probably still holding the record. 375 rwhp for just a tune is way out of the ordinary. If my car made 375 rwhp with just a tune I would be concerned. But if I could feel the SOTP hp then there wouldn't be a concern. I believe the challenge is the 375 rwhp, not the SOTP. Just my little .02 for the night.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Now have the car dyno'd on a Dynojet 248 and print the SAE corrected smoothing 5 figures. Compare apples with apples.

Notice that the top of the chart shows FLYWHEEL HP & TQ not Rear Wheel readings.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 04:34 AM
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I've dyno'd on both a Dyno Dynamics and a Dynojet. Here's the results. Same car, same mods. Tune tweaked on the Dynojet to get a few more ponies.





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Originally Posted by Joe_G
I've dyno'd on both a Dynapak and a Dynojet. Here's the results. Same car, same mods. Tune tweaked on the Dynojet to get a few more ponies.




joe, so the dynapak shows 34 more hp then dynojet? am i reading this correctly?
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Thanks for everyones input....I like the way the car feels....and more than happy...I guess I'm getting the Mod addiction.....well looks there still more to come and nice to know there so many informative CF members willing to share,which makes corvette Forum visit on a daily to do list
Thanks once again guys
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joe, so the dynapak shows 34 more hp then dynojet? am i reading this correctly?
Looks like 38 horsepower.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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The actual peak #s are not what matters, the gain from before and after the tune on the same dyno is what is important.

His gains are 27rwhp on the same dyno, fantastic.
Even on a dynojet, you would be seeing around 20rwhp gain before and after the tune.

Dynos are just tools used for tuning.
They all vary depending on type of dyno, weather conditions, etc...

I am very impressed with the gains achieved on a stock car by a simple tune.

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Originally Posted by paulee
joe, so the dynapak shows 34 more hp then dynojet? am i reading this correctly?
I misspoke - the first dyno was a dyno dynamics, not dynapak. Serves me right for posting after an evening of dirt track racing! The dyno dynamics showed 38 more peak hp. The tune really wakes up the C6, great mod.
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