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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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I just changed to a 160 degree thermostat on my c6 refilled the overflow a few times as it went down-until it stayed in the full range. When i drove the car the temp stayed at 185 ish,then the gauge went down to the bottom 100 degree area and the dic display read - Hot engine air conditioning off- I drove home 5 miles and the coolant temp was shown as XXX ,the oil temp was only 175, and the engine did'nt really seem hot. Any ideas what happened.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Try putting back your old one and see what happens. I didn't have problem with my C6 but had similar problem on my c5. After I changed thermostat I drove down road to test it. About 2 miles from my house I was sitting at red light, temp went past 200, kept climbing, light turned green, then I pulled over, few seconds later, engine shut off. I opened hood and it over heated. To be safe, I called AAA then towed it to my house, put old thermostat in, car was fine, ordered new 160 thermostat. Installed new one then no problem. Hope that helps.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Thats probably what i'll do, the odd part is why the engine did'nt seem hot and the oil temp was only 176?
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I guess it was caused by filling the resivour while the car was running, I disconnected the neg.battery cable,reconnected it and the message was gone ,the gauge read fine while, while at 55 mph it held at 165 degrees. Thanks.
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You have to be sure that you put the thermostat in facing the right direction as well.
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you got air pockets in your cooling system. hold the idle at 2k rpm and kept filling the reser tank until full.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrf4i1
you got air pockets in your cooling system. hold the idle at 2k rpm and kept filling the reser tank until full.
The sensor only reads water or coolant. If there is an air pocket it will not read anything.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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You have to be sure that you put the thermostat in facing the right direction as well.
It only fits in one direction. Maybe i had air pockets,but the resivour never went down anymore and disconnecting the battery seeems to have fixed the problem somehow. Beats the heck outta me. I only drove it a few miles maybe it will happen again tomorrow if i go farther. THanks again guys. Eric
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Check the connector to the sensor on the drivers side head near the alternator. Disconnect it and reconnect. If the temp is falling to 100 the sensor may be bad (or the connector)
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Been there, had that happen. Scared the wee outta me!

It's not a physical problem, your engine is fine, you don't have air pockets, you don't have an actual overtemp condition.

The PCM has detected that you are running a lot cooler than it thinks you should and it's response is too display these warnings. Who knows why it was programmed to to this. You need to get your tuner to turn off the undertemp trouble code and you will be fine.
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Huh,Very interesting.
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Originally Posted by cbrf4i1
you got air pockets in your cooling system. hold the idle at 2k rpm and kept filling the reser tank until full.
.. mine did the same thing! You think it's full but it's not. Took my about 5 mins to get it properly refilled. If you had the stat in upside down it would over heat the engine in nothing flat and I don't think it can be installed that way........
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Originally Posted by 6Speeder
Been there, had that happen. Scared the wee outta me!

It's not a physical problem, your engine is fine, you don't have air pockets, you don't have an actual overtemp condition.

The PCM has detected that you are running a lot cooler than it thinks you should and it's response is too display these warnings. Who knows why it was programmed to to this. You need to get your tuner to turn off the undertemp trouble code and you will be fine.
Why didn't mine do that?
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I guess it was caused by filling the resivour while the car was running, I disconnected the neg.battery cable,reconnected it and the message was gone ,the gauge read fine while, while at 55 mph it held at 165 degrees. Thanks.
165 is really cold. I have a 160 and it stays at 178 on a cold day while cruising. I've never seen anything less than that once the car warms up.
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I just changed to a 160 degree thermostat on my c6 refilled the overflow a few times as it went down-until it stayed in the full range. When i drove the car the temp stayed at 185 ish,then the gauge went down to the bottom 100 degree area and the dic display read - Hot engine air conditioning off- I drove home 5 miles and the coolant temp was shown as XXX ,the oil temp was only 175, and the engine did'nt really seem hot. Any ideas what happened.
I'm thinking you got an air pocket. But the post by C6 Speeder definitely deserves a lot of consideration.

If you think its an air pocket, put the car on ramps so that the pocket rises towards the top, start it up with the lid off the reservour and see if the coolant level goes down. If it does then add more coolant/water mixture.

I'd definitely rule out an air pocket first and foremost as this is perhaps the most common "error" in installing a thermostat.
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
I'm thinking you got an air pocket. But the post by C6 Speeder definitely deserves a lot of consideration.

If you think its an air pocket, put the car on ramps so that the pocket rises towards the top, start it up with the lid off the reservour and see if the coolant level goes down. If it does then add more coolant/water mixture.

I'd definitely rule out an air pocket first and foremost as this is perhaps the most common "error" in installing a thermostat.
That's the first thing we thought also. Couldn't get any air out. The key clue is that the engine really wasn't hot, it was cooler than normal. It was a computer thing.

I don't know why some do this and some don't. My guess is the computer expects to see a certain temp with in some finite time after startup, low ambient temps and low load during warmup may cause it to not come up fast enough with a low temp stat. I do know that after turning off that code it hasn't happened again, and still running considerably cooler than stock.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Thats exactly what happened to my o6 only a certain serial range does it. A friends built the same week as mine also did it . Had to have the code changed when I had it tuned, problem never appeared again.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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Years ago I read something that Smokey Yurchan[sic] did to his cars its worked for me for many different cars. Here goes by the way I have read this from some other guys here also so I'm not the only one. I drill acouple of 1/8 or slighly large hole . I also insist on fail open thermostats. The good ones always have 2 springs. The holes prevent AIR POCKETS. they also allow enough water to help prevent serious overheating. I just changed my 07 C6 to 160' it drastically lowered the temps from 203-208 to 183-189. this is my experience ,no reprograming in my case. no water wetter either. I do use the AC all the time and keep the dust out. I hope it works out for you try the holes, there is already one there with a swivel thing that must go IMOP
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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My car has been fine all day. It seems that disconnecting the battery did the trick, today the temp outside was 65 and the car avg temp while moving was 180.
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