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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Ok, I have installed numerous CAIs, but I am having a problem with this one. I think it is that the rubber connection between the MAF and the throttle body/intake is too large. It absolutely dwarfs the MAF. There is no way I can tighten this thing properly. Is this a bad design, did I get a bad part, or what? I took a measurement and the in side dimensions of the rubber connector is just over 3 3/4" the dimesnisions of the MAF are 3 1/2". That is over a 1/4" of difference and no way will this thing work the way it is. Any suggestions?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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I got the same bad part yesterday. It is the wrong part. They sent us the connector for the Z06. Email Jim Hall ASAP and he will get you the correct one sent out!!! RIchard
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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We are aware of this problem as of last night at 9:30 PM. We are sending everyone the correct connector hose today.

Very sorry for the mixup, but the hose for the Killer Bee and the Stinger look identical, and my picker grabbed the wrong connector hoses.

Please return the Z06 unit in the box provided and we will refund everyone the shipping charges back to Halltech.

Once again, sorry for this mixup.

If you feel that you got the correct part, please email us immediately, so that we do not ship you a second part.

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debbie@corvetteC5.com
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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UGGGHHHHH!!! I know mistakes happen, but man, after I get the whole thing taken apart and now have to put the other one back on until I get the right part!!! Oh well I guess I got to practice once.

No sweat Jim, these things happen. I will be anxiously awaiting the new one!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by toro1966
UGGGHHHHH!!! I know mistakes happen, but man, after I get the whole thing taken apart and now have to put the other one back on until I get the right part!!! Oh well I guess I got to practice once.

No sweat Jim, these things happen. I will be anxiously awaiting the new one!
Cheers.
We're old folks here, and get mixed up easily. Here is a picture of the correct part we are sending out:

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One more question - as careful as I was moving the little tab over for the PCV nipple connector, I apparently wasn't careful enough. The little tab looks like it broke off. It is the part that you have to move over to get the connector off. I know it will work without this, but I don't want to take the chance the PCV connector will come off since the tab is what holds it on. So my question is how hard is it to get another connector, and does it just fit on the hose, or do I have to change out that hose as well? I ask because the hose sure looks like it is fitted onto the connector pretty well. Thanks!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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One more question - as careful as I was moving the little tab over for the PCV nipple connector, I apparently wasn't careful enough. The little tab looks like it broke off. It is the part that you have to move over to get the connector off. I know it will work without this, but I don't want to take the chance the PCV connector will come off since the tab is what holds it on. So my question is how hard is it to get another connector, and does it just fit on the hose, or do I have to change out that hose as well? I ask because the hose sure looks like it is fitted onto the connector pretty well. Thanks!
You can connect a piece of 3/8" hose directly to the PVC nipple and order a new line from GM if you think the connector does not keep it connected any longer. A leak there will cause an eventual lean code.

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Originally Posted by toro1966
UGGGHHHHH!!! I know mistakes happen, but man, after I get the whole thing taken apart and now have to put the other one back on until I get the right part!!! Oh well I guess I got to practice once.

No sweat Jim, these things happen. I will be anxiously awaiting the new one!
Cheers.

NO biggie...it happens; Jim is right on it.

Heck, my parents made a mistake with me I wonder if they want to exchange me for another

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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NO biggie...it happens; Jim is right on it.

Heck, my parent made a mistake with me I wonder if they want to exchange me for another

Carlos
Carlos, you are a great help to the Corvette community, and are very well respected by the folks at Halltech. Even if your folks didn't want you, we do.
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Thanks Jim! I am assuming the new hose has the connector already installed on it? Thanks again for the outstanding customer service. Just got my email from Debbie so I should be getting my new part. Awesome.
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Thanks Jim! I am assuming the new hose has the connector already installed on it? Thanks again for the outstanding customer service. Just got my email from Debbie so I should be getting my new part. Awesome.
The hose you got did not have the nipple insert on it? Now I'm really puzzled by what was sent.

The Z06 unit has the exact same PCV nipple receiver shown in the pic, but has 4" ends and no notch.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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I put the stinger venom on my 2006 Monday evening and I guess
I was lucky to have the correct parts. I will tell you that it was
one of the easiest and best fitting systems I have ever installed.
Not sure about how much performance I gained, but it looks so
much cleaner under the hood and has that neat "I am sucking
more air to make horsepower sound" ! 15 minutes install time.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TK02
I put the stinger venom on my 2006 Monday evening and I guess
I was lucky to have the correct parts. I will tell you that it was
one of the easiest and best fitting systems I have ever installed.
Not sure about how much performance I gained, but it looks so
much cleaner under the hood and has that neat "I am sucking
more air to make horsepower sound" ! 15 minutes install time.
Congrats amigo and welcome to the family
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Well I just installed it, but haven't taken it out for a drive. You can definitely hear the "whoosh - sucking sound" when you hi the gas though. Installation was pretty straightforward but I did encounter a couple issues I wanted to let everyone know about. Might be unique to my install, but with only 281 miles on my new car, I doubt it.

1. The notch cut in the hose for the MAF was in the wrong location. Yes I know you can rotate the MAF, but with where the notch was cut, I would have had to rotate the MAF past a hose that was in the way -wasn't possible. The fix was simple, I just cut a new notch. That said, it made the install more interesting...
2. The nipple on the hose is in a different location than that of the stock accordian hose. Because of this, and the fairly rigid nature of the PCV hose, make installing the connector a little of a pain. More importantly, you can see the slight strain on the connector because it is not in the same location as it would normally be. I will try and post pictures later but wanted to get my feedback in.

Cheers,
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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One more quick question on the SSM install. I have it installed and when I depress the gas pedal it seems as if there is a slight hesitation and I hear a sucking sound. Is that the effect of the new CAI? Is it normal? I don't mean to ask a dumb question, but this is the first time I have ever had a CAI do this. Every thing is installed properly and double checked. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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When I had my BLACKWING/STINGER/K+N AIR CHARGER/HALLTECH (all the same) filter on I never got any kind of hesitation or sucking sound.Something's not right!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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I agree, though I can't be sure what it is. I have triple checked everything and it is installed as per the directions. Not sure what the problem could be....I think I am going to remove it tomorrow and put the stocker back on and see what's what. Thanks.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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I hear the exact same thing. I raised the hood with the door open and revved.... Instant sucking sound followed by about a 1/2 to 1 second hesitation and the the engine revved on up. I thought it was a fluke so I did it a few times. Everytime was the same result, not to sure I like that. It never had a nice contiuous rev like my C5 w/ stinger did. The hesitation bugs me!
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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Victory red- exact same thing I experienced. I just put the stocker back on and I really don't hear the sucking sound anymore, but I do still have the .5 second or so hesitation as the engine revs up. When I look at the rpms, they go up instantly but it still SOUNDS like it is hesitating. I am wondering if that hesitation is really the throttle body opening and I am also wondering if it always did that, but we just never noticed. Can anyone else confirm this?
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One thing to check is the MAF + THROTTLE BODY for any dirt or oil (FROM AIR FILTER) that may have gotten it.
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