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Old 10-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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Thank you to all the forum members who responded to my post for the value of the underdrive pulley...had it installed with NO problems charging even with my battery in the rear of the car..Now another question...........Opinions on header wrapping....value???.Pros/.Cons??.....Has anyone done it on a C6........All opinions are appreciated...Thanks......NastyC6....... ...BOB
Old 10-11-2007, 11:49 AM
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If you are going that route, get them coated. Same general effect and alot prettier. Personally, mine are raw stainless and have not had a problem with underhood temps or burning wires, etc.
Old 10-11-2007, 12:45 PM
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mine are coated, but I am not sure if I would do it again. I have read that if the heat does not disapate, it through the headers, it adds to the combustion temps and promotes detonation.
Old 10-11-2007, 12:48 PM
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I do not recommend wrapping your headers unless it is a race only application - and I do mean race only as in the car is a trailered race car....have the headers Jet Hot coated or going with a coated option from an aftermarket company's offering is really the best way to go on a street application - we have 2 different coatings we offer on our headers

it actually voids the warranty on our headers as well when people wrap them, some other aftermarket companies might say the same thing
Old 10-11-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brad@JBAHEADERS
I do not recommend wrapping your headers unless it is a race only application - and I do mean race only as in the car is a trailered race car....have the headers Jet Hot coated or going with a coated option from an aftermarket company's offering is really the best way to go on a street application - we have 2 different coatings we offer on our headers

it actually voids the warranty on our headers as well when people wrap them, some other aftermarket companies might say the same thing
Why is wrapping headers a problem. I would like specifics to stainless.
Old 10-11-2007, 03:38 PM
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Years ago I put Doug Thorley headers on my motorhome. The warranty was void if the headers were wrapped. I think it had something to do with rust but I'm not sure.
Old 10-11-2007, 03:44 PM
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I think you would be better off with a coating such as Jet Hot as someone else said. I thought about getting my Kooks headers coated with Jet Hot 2000, but decided against it since they are stainless steel and there is room around them to let the heat disapate.
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Originally Posted by jak112460
Why is wrapping headers a problem. I would like specifics to stainless.

The tape/wrap collects moisture. This, and the heat, can degrade the welds and base stainless. Coating inside and out is better.
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Originally Posted by jak112460
Why is wrapping headers a problem. I would like specifics to stainless.
the headers get red hot and it can actually temper the steel and make it weaker. I have seen guys on jetboats do it and the weight of the collector caused the headers to warp and actually drop a couple inches. Too much heat for the steel.
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Originally Posted by lemans 07
the headers get red hot and it can actually temper the steel and make it weaker. I have seen guys on jetboats do it and the weight of the collector caused the headers to warp and actually drop a couple inches. Too much heat for the steel.


Wrap is not good for stainless LT's. Call the mfg and they will tell you.
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Originally Posted by jak112460
Why is wrapping headers a problem. I would like specifics to stainless.
the wrap retains heat in a way that can create excessive heat build up and stress on the primary tubes - ive seen this one as well on street cars - I actually saw a guy bang into a set of primarys with the handle of a socket wrench and the tube actually shattered right in front of him

stick with ceramic coating/jet hot coating
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Thanks for all the input on the header wrap subject.........after considering all the qualified advice .....i've decided NOT to use the header wrap......Always looking for a few more HP.....NastyC6......BOB
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it's not the best looking coating, but I am going with Swain-tech Coating . If it's good enough for NASCAR it's good enough for me.

I'm going to Swain-tech both the inside and outside of the pipes.

The entire from the headers back to the cat backs, NOT the catalytic converters.

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I would also advise not wrapping headers. It doesn't last long under high heat. I would advise a good ceramic/aftermarket coating, although there are mixed opinions on coating the inside only versus inside and outside. I don't believe coating the inside would be a problem if you're staying N/A or supercharged, although turbo applications are where I'd personally only coat the outside. I also think highly of Swaintech offerings. I'm a Corvette n00b, but have run ceramic coated headers for nearly five years on a turbocharged Subaru.

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imo, wrapping isn't as good as coating, as long as you use a quality coating company (jethot, swaintech, etc.). wrap absorbs moisture, dirt, etc. coating leaves the headers looking good as new even after 20k+ miles.

i had my headers coated but i did use some wrap on the x-pipe and cat-back.
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I wouldn't recommend it to any one in any condition. In theory it sounds like it would add H.P. to engine, being the engine bay would be cooler. But, when the headers get hot they retain the heat and it is just like you heat treated them. On my race car they would glow and each time I ran it they went through the heat treatment until they got so brittle they cracked into pieces. Get them coated and that is it!
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Originally Posted by oldmansan
I would also advise not wrapping headers. It doesn't last long under high heat. I would advise a good ceramic/aftermarket coating, although there are mixed opinions on coating the inside only versus inside and outside. I don't believe coating the inside would be a problem if you're staying N/A or supercharged, although turbo applications are where I'd personally only coat the outside. I also think highly of Swaintech offerings. I'm a Corvette n00b, but have run ceramic coated headers for nearly five years on a turbocharged Subaru.

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Old 12-24-2007, 03:51 PM
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You might want to take a look at the Melrose headers. They come jet hot coated, the fit is excellent, and life time warranty as long as you own the car. Some folks argue that they are only mild steel vs. Stainless steel. Mild Steel flexes better and less risky for cracks at the flanges. They keep a nice shine which helps if you're showing your car. Check out their FAQ on their website and decide for yourself. So far, my Melrose headers with long tubes and X-pipe have been performing flawlessly. Good luck. I do agree with the other guys here about not wrapping them. Jet hot coating will solve that for you.
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We also do not recommend wrapping headers because of the combination of heat and moisture built up within the wrapping. We also aren't a big proponent of ceramic coatings with our 304 S/S systems unless the application has forced induction. Feedback from some highly experienced tuners told us coatings on N/A applications, particularly those with greater than stock camshaft lifts and durations can cause excessive heat to back up into the combustion chamber promoting detonation. With mild steel, coatings are a must for longevity and mild steel simply won't hold the heat in as well as S/S. Therefore coating mild steel isn't nearly as detrimental.

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My none coated AR headers do just fine! And they cool off pretty fast.


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