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Nov 2, 2007 | 07:58 PM

CHASLS2

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Headers SOTP feeling?

Looks like i will be doing headers very soon and a tune on my 06 a6.
Just wonderd if headers really gave you a SOTP feeling?

Nov 2, 2007 | 08:44 PM

Ted P

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Originally Posted by CHASLS2

Looks like i will be doing headers very soon and a tune on my 06 a6.
Just wonderd if headers really gave you a SOTP feeling?

yes with headers and tm delete on the tune. Big difference in mine (06 a6) especially getting tm tuned out on the shifts.

Ted

Nov 2, 2007 | 09:07 PM

glennhl

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Without a tune I picked up 26 rwhp, which you can feel. However, I picked up 39 pound feet of torque which is a huge change in the midrange. I'd recommend the LG Pro Long Tubes, they have shown the best gains in torque and horsepower.

Nov 2, 2007 | 09:44 PM

Tony B4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHASLS2

Looks like i will be doing headers very soon and a tune on my 06 a6.
Just wonderd if headers really gave you a SOTP feeling?

Yes they gave a great SOTP with the tune,make sure to get the tune too

Nov 2, 2007 | 10:31 PM

0corvette pilot

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kooks long tubes, catted x and b&bs, later Corsa Z06 catback and my wife even noticed a sotp difference when she drove it

Nov 2, 2007 | 10:38 PM

Maui

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if you really want sotp go 4.10's

Nov 2, 2007 | 11:38 PM

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Haven't seen where they do any better than the Kook's 1 3/4's.
The comparo they were doing was 1 3/4 vs 1 7/8.
Run a search and You will find "show me your numbers"
and there is about 20 cars dynoing with really similar mods, All
ls-2's but I took all the numbers, Like 4-5 kooks 2-3 Lg's 2-3 Dynomax different size tubes. Mod per mod the Kook's showed best plus call
a few big tuners like Cartec etc.They like to run Kook's.
plus they install So nice! 378 stock. 428rwhp 429 rwtq with KOOk's same Dyno
backed up with 421 on a Mustang Dyno!

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Nov 2, 2007 | 11:55 PM

glennhl

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No argument from me that Kooks make the same power. Where the LG's shine is mid range torque.

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Nov 3, 2007 | 12:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted P

yes with headers and tm delete on the tune. Big difference in mine (06 a6) especially getting tm tuned out on the shifts.

Ted

Ted,

100%. I also had headers but added Corsa catback and Hi-Flo cats as well. Along with the tune and the TM removed you will get a fabulous SOTP way beyond stock.

Charles you will not regret it... Honest Injun!

Ted,
Forgot to mention, I travel daily to my shop in Bartlett, bet we have waved one time or another!
Fran

Nov 3, 2007 | 02:40 AM

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so noone disagrees with the answer to the op's question. headers, no tune, big sotp diff.

Nov 3, 2007 | 08:05 AM

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Yes they gave a great SOTP with the tune,make sure to get the tune too

Cost of the headers, tune and install will be $2095. Next will be cam and heads.

Nov 3, 2007 | 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maui

if you really want sotp go 4.10's

4:10'S would be over the top with a A6, but maybe after the heads-cam i will do 3:15's.

Nov 3, 2007 | 08:52 AM

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I did not feel a huge gain sotp imo, though the dyno showed an nearly 40rwhp and 40rwtq gain from my header/intake/tune install. I must've got used to the power quickly.

Nov 3, 2007 | 10:41 AM

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I love my Kooks headers and Corsa Sports. The sound of WOT going from 2000 through 4500 rpm is worth it all. SOTP is way subjective. For me, the biggest SOTP feeling was when I sat at my desk and looked at my credit card bill after the exhaust system purchase and install.

Nov 3, 2007 | 12:17 PM

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I felt a slight difference with just headers....definetly better

Sounds better also

Nov 3, 2007 | 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHASLS2

Cost of the headers, tune and install will be $2095. Next will be cam and heads.

Great Price ! While your at it, get the 160 T-Stat

, it worth its weight in gold as they say

Nov 4, 2007 | 07:00 AM

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I've offten wondered if the sotp feeling would be more from the tune and tm removed than the headers. Especialy if tm was hindering our cars enough. Just a thought.

Nov 4, 2007 | 07:44 AM

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St. Jude Donor '13

My tuner says removing most of TM should help alot, and also doing a tranny tune will help.

Nov 4, 2007 | 08:26 AM

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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10

Headers Or Tune Increase ???

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Originally Posted by mikes98vett

I've offten wondered if the sotp feeling would be more from the tune and tm removed than the headers. Especialy if tm was hindering our cars enough. Just a thought.

I recently installed headers and did not notice a SOTP difference
although the car sounded entirely different. I then installed a
predator 93 header tune and did notice a difference. Sometimes our expectations and anticipation of that additional HP can be deceiving.