Damn, another clean engine compartment .......................... 
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You're right, I didnt log the stock intake...but the design of the stock intake pulls air in from the top...not the bottom, so it wouldnt have nearly the velocity of air that would be picked up by the K&N with the open shroud.
Of course this is just all what is sensible to me...not necessarily fact.
Either way...my K&N with open shroud scoots a lot better than with stock intake, so I'm more than happy with it
Of course this is just all what is sensible to me...not necessarily fact.
Either way...my K&N with open shroud scoots a lot better than with stock intake, so I'm more than happy with it
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I just got one for 150 used....I didnt want a vararam because they look like crap and I didnt want a vortex because it was more money than I wanted to pay for an intake setup even though they look really nice.
i havent installed it yet, but with the shroud propped open it scoops up a considerable amount of air for the k&n to take in. If you prop th shroud open ~3inches on both sides it actually form a scooping shape that you can see just by getting down and looking into the grill on the front of the car....is it as good as the vortex or vararam? probably not...is it a lot better than stock? probably.
I'm going to be going to the track this weekend to test the differences (assuming it's open to the public...they may have some big event going on) and will see what I pick up. My car is VERY consistant and very predictable, so I will have a good idea what it gains.
i havent installed it yet, but with the shroud propped open it scoops up a considerable amount of air for the k&n to take in. If you prop th shroud open ~3inches on both sides it actually form a scooping shape that you can see just by getting down and looking into the grill on the front of the car....is it as good as the vortex or vararam? probably not...is it a lot better than stock? probably.
I'm going to be going to the track this weekend to test the differences (assuming it's open to the public...they may have some big event going on) and will see what I pick up. My car is VERY consistant and very predictable, so I will have a good idea what it gains.
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If you want to avoid heat soak you can just block off the filter area from the engine. My IATs are low right off the line. Not sure how I could be losing power if I am pulling in ambient air temps.
Definition of a cold air intake = One that instantly pulls in ambient air temps.
Fair enough? Well that is what mine does therefore it would be a CAI.
Definition of a cold air intake = One that instantly pulls in ambient air temps.
Fair enough? Well that is what mine does therefore it would be a CAI.
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One more thing. I will never say anything bad about K&N. They have the best customer service in the business! They have replaced 2 broken units, one on a 94 Z28 and one on my Vette. No questions asked, just did it. They are first class in my book!
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Regarding price, I originally bought mine directly from K&N but they are not the best deal. I tried to get K&N to match the price but they said ship it back. So that is what I did. I returned that one to K&N and bought one from Ebay for about $100 less.
Conclusion: Don't buy from K&N directly. Check Ebay.
I love the carbon fiber look and like the fact I did not have to cut the shroud.
Conclusion: Don't buy from K&N directly. Check Ebay.
I love the carbon fiber look and like the fact I did not have to cut the shroud.
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Yes, it was VERY worth the money since I picked it up for 150 shipped.
If you look on ebay you can get them for 255 + shipping new.
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Looks exactly like my old Halltech. I had the cold air added as well. My Vararam was a consistent .2 and 2 mph improvement over my Halltech. However, I didn't have the popped shroud which my have made a difference..interesting.
For the poster, if you don't run at the track and want the best possible ET's and/or mph, get what floats your boat. Certainly can't go wrong with the K&N and a popped shroud might give you a little extra oomph.
For the poster, if you don't run at the track and want the best possible ET's and/or mph, get what floats your boat. Certainly can't go wrong with the K&N and a popped shroud might give you a little extra oomph.
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Looks exactly like my old Halltech.
If you look at the Z06/LS3 version the air bridge has a much better design in that the filter opening is MUCH larger, like the stock Z06 air bridge.
The best CAI not only gets cold air but has the least restriction IMO.
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I am using the K&N and, though it isn't a true CAI as others are very quick to point out, I think it is a high quality piece. Could have just been dirty stock filters for me but my car definately felt like it picked up a couple HP. I have no data to prove this other than the SOTP feel and the fact that the car is a little more slippery in 2nd than before.
I bought the vette-air also but will probably not install that until end of winter because I am contemplating a supercharger.
I bought the vette-air also but will probably not install that until end of winter because I am contemplating a supercharger.
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Regarding price, I originally bought mine directly from K&N but they are not the best deal. I tried to get K&N to match the price but they said ship it back. So that is what I did. I returned that one to K&N and bought one from Ebay for about $100 less.
Conclusion: Don't buy from K&N directly. Check Ebay.
Conclusion: Don't buy from K&N directly. Check Ebay.
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Well I couldn't wait so I installed the vette-air yesterday. The install went fine and I'm happy with it but I'm not sure why GM wouldn't do something like this from the factory. Many other cars have ducts to bring in outside (cold) air and it doesn't seem like it would be too hard to seal off the air intake section from the rest of the hot engine bay. If I do another one day I'll probably remove the shroud so I can make a better connection between the vette air scoop and the shroud. I guess in that case a vararam would be easier...
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Well,in reality GM did do something like this.If you would've drilled 3 or 4 holes on both sides of the stock setup,you would've gotten the same effect that you will get with the VETTE AIR,since all that does is open the front to let some cooler air in.What it does not do is directly inject cooler air into the T.B/MAF thing like the VARARAM,Callaway etc..