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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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I re installed my OEM stat and everything is fine for about a month, now it seems that the coolant temp is at times erratic and does not stay steady at 194 like it used to. For example I see temp going down to 180's on the highway then climb back to 190's (car never went below 192 on the highway). I also got a "check coolant level" message, however the coolant level is fine.

I don't mind the lower temps but something doesn't seem right, could the oem stat be the problem, no other mods have been done to the car, this is driving me any ideas?
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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air in the system?? could have a bubble....
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Definitely a problem; possibly some air in there. Should stay right on "normal" (195 or so) when driving down the highway. Of course its possible that the thermostat is bad or was damaged, but that doesn't seem very likely when the description includes "erratic".

It is possible to get false low temperature readings due to air in the system; this is caused by the temperature probe being in the bubble, which isn't a very good conductor of heat.

I believe that the coolant level isn't measured, but is calculated based on uneven temperatures - which is consistant with what you're seeing, and with an air problem.

Did this problem perhaps show up soon after the first time the heater was used after the thermostat was swapped? Could be some air in the heater system got in when the valve opened up.

So I'd look into "burping" the system.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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to see if any air is in the system. Start it cold with the pressure cap off the surge tank. Idle for 4 minutes. Then run it 2000 rpm for 2 minutes. Then idle it for 2 minutes. If the coolant level went down, there was air in it.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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I believe the heater doesn't have a "valve", it is always flowing coolant.
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Air is my bet. The air bubble will show a lower temp when it hits the sending unit and since you drained fluid when changing the stat back to the stock one, you got air in the system. It shouldn't ever go below 192 although it will fluctuate higher in stop and go or slow speeds.
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thanks all for the input, i'll "burp" the system in the morning and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Buffy
Definitely a problem; possibly some air in there. Should stay right on "normal" (195 or so) when driving down the highway. Of course its possible that the thermostat is bad or was damaged, but that doesn't seem very likely when the description includes "erratic".

It is possible to get false low temperature readings due to air in the system; this is caused by the temperature probe being in the bubble, which isn't a very good conductor of heat.

I believe that the coolant level isn't measured, but is calculated based on uneven temperatures - which is consistant with what you're seeing, and with an air problem.

Did this problem perhaps show up soon after the first time the heater was used after the thermostat was swapped? Could be some air in the heater system got in when the valve opened up.

So I'd look into "burping" the system.
right on the money, "burping" took care of the problem


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to see if any air is in the system. Start it cold with the pressure cap off the surge tank. Idle for 4 minutes. Then run it 2000 rpm for 2 minutes. Then idle it for 2 minutes. If the coolant level went down, there was air in it.

this method worked for me, thanks for all the help
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Thanks folks, I'm having a similar issue and will give her a burp this weekend.
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