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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Yeah. I dont think there ever is any magic to it, just good power and good 60s. Amazing times!


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what i am saying James, from years of bracket racing i let off right at the finish line. the mph is calculated 60 ft before the finish line and 60 ft after the finish line so it is calculated in that 120 ft span, if yo hold past the finish line to the last line, or timing lights your mph reads higher than if you let off at the finish line
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Nice...you need to change your results in your profile...again.


Does this car also run with the stock intake/TB?

BTW..at 275 lbs, if you'd have let Alex drive the car I think you'd have seen an 0.1 better ET. j/k
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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damn James if i would have known that i wouldn't have let off at the finish line
Note to all......If you haven`t noticed, the man loves to break records Hide your timeslips,he owns the BOLT ONS SPOT
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Nice...you need to change your results in your profile...again.


Does this car also run with the stock intake/TB?

BTW..at 275 lbs, if you'd have let Alex drive the car I think you'd have seen an 0.1 better ET. j/k
thanks Don, fast intake factory tb, its in the signature im thinking about the new Vararam TB if it works as good as the VR i will be in the 10s
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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thanks Don, fast intake factory tb, its in the signature im thinking about the new Vararam TB if it works as good as the VR i will be in the 10s
I thaught the ls3 would be the car to break your 11.21. It might happen but it wont be for a while especially if you find a way to break into the 10's .Im sure you will break into the 10's in the next few months. PM me with your Dyno numbers, Im thinking about cARTEK.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Geneus
BTW..at 275 lbs, if you'd have let Alex drive the car I think you'd have seen an 0.1 better ET. j/k
Good point and all kidding aside, what exactly is a 130-140 pound weight savings worth when drag racing an automatic Corvette C6?
Whatever it is, that's how much quicker Alex could've potentially gone in this car.
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Well Im no slouch at 185lbs.

But wow Denis I dint think you were serious. I would have thought you would care a little about getting higher trap speeds.
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Well Im no slouch at 185lbs.

But wow Denis I dint think you were serious. I would have thought you would care a little about getting higher trap speeds.
James!! i am 53 years old and work like a lumberjack 58 inch chest 38 inch waist 5ft. 10 inch tall now that i am old i have a bit of a gut but very big arms and shoulders. old people weigh more. so the car would be in the 10s if i go on a diet. i can go down to 220 in a month if need be. that's my ace in the hole for when i need it the reason i dont care about mph is because mph doesnt win races, yes its good for roll racing, top end turnpike cruising, its cool for conversation but that's about it. if you look at the first time card i ran a very powerful cobra a lot of work , slicks skinnies a fast car, he out lighted me. i wasn't really trying but he was. as you can see he ran 134.93 out lighted me ran an11.236 but the time card says right lane wins by .0098 i won with 121.52 mph his 134 meant nothing

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James!! i am 53 years old and work like a lumberjack 58 inch chest 38 inch waist 5ft. 10 inch tall now that i am old i have a bit of a gut but very big arms and shoulders. old people way more. so the car would be in the 10s if i go on a diet. i can go down to 220 in a month if need be. that's my ace in the hole for when i need it the reason i dont care about mph is because mph doesnt win races, yes its good for roll racing, top end turnpike cruising, its cool for conversation but that's about it. if you look at the first time card i ran a very powerful cobra a lot of work , slicks skinnies a fast car, he out lighted me. i wasn't really trying but he was. as you can see he ran 134.93 out lighted me ran an11.236 but the time card says right lane wins by .0098 i won with 121.52 mph his 134 meant nothing
Well put. I don't know what the obsession is with trap speed. What good is it if you run 3 mph quicker than your opponent and still lose the race?

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Well put. I don't know what the obsession is with trap speed. What good is it if you run 3 mph quicker than your opponent and still lose the race?
Be it drag racing, autocross or even a standing start road race (the ability to be able to power out of/off of a turn still falls under acceleration) strong acceleration is still key. An open road race (ie: Nevada Classic, Flying Mile etc.) or say Bonneville, well that's different.

Like I've said before, given the choice, I'd much be able to say that I ran a 12.0 at only 117mph than to say I only ran a 12.6 but at 123mph.
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Be it drag racing, autocross or even a standing start road race (the ability to be able to power out of/off of a turn still falls under acceleration) strong acceleration is still key. An open road race (ie: Nevada Classic, Flying Mile etc.) or say Bonneville, well that's different.

Like I've said before, given the choice, I'd much be able to say that I ran a 12.0 at only 117mph than to say I only ran a 12.6 but at 123mph.
Its all about the et, not the mph.
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Its all about the et, not the mph.


I'll take an 11.1.... I don't care if it comes at 110 mph.
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I guess it is important to me because in many ways it shows the potential of the car. In the examples given, yes he lost to denis, but because of the greater power(higher mph) on an equal launch and equal tree, he will win every time.
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I guess it is important to me because in many ways it shows the potential of the car. In the examples given, yes he lost to denis, but because of the greater power(higher mph) on an equal launch and equal tree, he will win every time.
....but he didn't....whoever gets there first wins, end of story. Great potential or not, he lost...in this example. I'm on the band wagon as well, I'd rather run a quicker ET vs mph. That higher mph, when cars are near equal, often come with spinning anyway.

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I guess it is important to me because in many ways it shows the potential of the car. In the examples given, yes he lost to Dennis, but because of the greater power(higher mph) on an equal launch and equal tree, he will win every time.
not really because he had more power, better tires, and should have been able to launch better, but why couldnt he. he didn't spin if we had an equal tree he would have lost by more. a great race car know mater what the times or mph it has to be balanced obviously he is not. you could turn your car around get the best 60.ft and et and go a slower mph. theofel has more done than you more rwhp better ets yet less mph just why is that
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....but he didn't....whoever gets there first wins, end of story. Great potential or not, he lost.
If you want potential throw a supercharger or turbo on their. There are guys running with superchargers running mid 12`s@ 125mph because they can`t get traction, but they have a higher trap speeds ETs=efficiency.

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Theofel's secret is his high stall converter and DR's giving him a 1.5 short time. That is where the et is. I just cannot seem to get below 1.7's anymore, you guys with stall speeds have it all over us manual guys!

11.14 on a bolt on only car is just great. You really have that thing dialed in Dennis!
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Theofel's secret is his high stall converter and DR's giving him a 1.5 short time. That is where the et is. I just cannot seem to get below 1.7's anymore, you guys with stall speeds have it all over us manual guys!

11.14 on a bolt on only car is just great. You really have that thing dialed in Dennis!
hi Joe, thanks. its not dial in just yet. maybe you can explain it to james that you do lose mph with a converter and better 60 ft times. that is what i am trying to say theofels car has more rwhp from mods great 60 ft and et yet a slower mph than james, but he thinks his car is more powerful because he has a higher mph with less mods and slower 60 ft
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I understand the converter changes things. Never claimed to have more power than anyone else. Certainly have better track conditions though.

Everytime I get better 60s the trap goes up a little.

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I understand the converter changes things. Never claimed to have more power than anyone else. Certainly have better track conditions though.

Everytime I get better 60s the trap goes up a little.
were talking real 60fts
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