C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge
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i would agree with that but my car says tire pressure not recommended or lowest just states tire size and air pressure 30 lbs. i drove 17-18 thousand miles on mine 24lbs rear 26-30 front still look good. and never had a problem with going sideways sliding or excessive tire spin, i drive now with skinnies and drs at 21lbs rear30 lbs front, have been 170 150 160 many times car handled great, i am going by experience, try it lower your backs to 24 hot fronts 30 hot drive around step on it to the floor at different speeds and you decide what pressures are better for all around street driving, the ones i stated and it works great for the 1/4 in the range of the tpms is totally acceptable
Your personal experience is not inherent in the brain of an 18 year old, but your advice to them should be conservative so they can live long enough to have their own experience.
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are you serious, maybe you can take the bet that no one else has, i follow the bolt/on rules 100% my car has been inspected numerous videos, i will let you inspect the car, i will make the pass let you inspect again seal the hood take it to a qualified gm tech, or tuners corvette shop of your choice they can inspect and tear the motor down to see if its the stock heads cam pistons, that the oil pan timing chain cover or valve covers have never been off, the price of tear down and put back together plus 10,000 dollars to the winner, some easy money for you if your so sure im cheating, i am in the top 5%
BTW, can you post a link to the bolt-on rules. I'm in that catagory now and haven't been able to find anything.
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I consider myself somewhat experienced and had a NHRA comp license years ago, yet I noticed a significant handling difference on a 1/4 mile track between 25 psi and 30psi. You're probably right that under normal driving conditions the average driver will not notice a difference. However, we're not discussing normal here. These are severe conditions and inexperienced drivers.
Yes, it is dangerous, which is all the more reason to act responsibly when advising the uninitiated.
Yes, it is dangerous, which is all the more reason to act responsibly when advising the uninitiated.
Please.
Le Mans Master
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From: Monroe Township New Jersey
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You guys are absolutely amazing a year ago we all agreed upon the rules and regulations. The list was a worthless piece of garbage because our members did not have the integrity to do what was right. We made changes to the format and I put up with a lot of stuff to get it to where it is today.
If there is so much discord with regard to our rules, because someone thinks it is a topic of concern or wants to start a debate, then lets go back to the old list. It takes a lot less of my time. I could just record the BS times and garbage as I did when we started.
If there is so much discord with regard to our rules, because someone thinks it is a topic of concern or wants to start a debate, then lets go back to the old list. It takes a lot less of my time. I could just record the BS times and garbage as I did when we started.
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This is a very basic definition of a bolt on LSx car:
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I consider myself somewhat experienced and had a NHRA comp license years ago, yet I noticed a significant handling difference on a 1/4 mile track between 25 psi and 30psi. You're probably right that under normal driving conditions the average driver will not notice a difference. However, we're not discussing normal here. These are severe conditions and inexperienced drivers.
Yes, it is dangerous, which is all the more reason to act responsibly when advising the uninitiated.
Yes, it is dangerous, which is all the more reason to act responsibly when advising the uninitiated.
in a straight line on the track you couldn't tell what the pressure is. if it was 10lbs you could, if 24lbs was unsafe then why does the low pressure alarm sound at 23 and the high at 42, why not at 30 and 32
Le Mans Master
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So basically you're saying that a Corvette C6, a world class handling car with Active Handling, Traction Control and ABS, with the only change to the car being tire pressures in the rear lowered to 24psi is like a loaded gun, a ticking time bomb that is SO dangerous and on the edge out of control that absolute death will ensue if anyone other than John Force dare tries to make a pass in it?
Please.
Please.
Both were experienced and kept their cars away from the wall.......
stuff happens.....
Then there was the guy with a Z06..........
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You guys are absolutely amazing a year ago we all agreed upon the rules and regulations. The list was a worthless piece of garbage because our members did not have the integrity to do what was right. We made changes to the format and I put up with a lot of stuff to get it to where it is today.
If there is so much discord with regard to our rules, because someone thinks it is a topic of concern or wants to start a debate, then lets go back to the old list. It takes a lot less of my time. I could just record the BS times and garbage as I did when we started.
If there is so much discord with regard to our rules, because someone thinks it is a topic of concern or wants to start a debate, then lets go back to the old list. It takes a lot less of my time. I could just record the BS times and garbage as I did when we started.
but you know every once and a while someone tries to scam the rules to get a good spot on the list because its so easy to get on and all the bleeding hearts want an easy way up the ladder. the rules for stock are common sense
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Sometimes we forget.....last December on a very cold day two guys with basically stock C6's were tasked with warming up the track for the faster guys. The first had a A6 and got a bit of a dance.... the second had a A4 and got a bit sideways.
Both were experienced and kept their cars away from the wall.......
stuff happens.....
Then there was the guy with a Z06..........
Both were experienced and kept their cars away from the wall.......
stuff happens.....
Then there was the guy with a Z06..........
But tire pressure had little or nothing to do with those incidents, cold weather and a moist track played the main roles there. If anything the lower rear pressures actually helped...higher pressures (I was at 26 or 27psi) could've resulted in even less traction and a potentially greater loss of control, at least in my car's situation.
Le Mans Master
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From: Monroe Township New Jersey
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I guess we have to get another crash test dummy to take a 08/09 C6 with npp to ATCO or Englishtown on a very cold night and tell them to run 30 PSI with everything off......or better yet after the track has been oiled down when one of the ricers blows a rear.......
Come on guys we all know why we lower the tire pressure in the rears and why we raise the front tire pressure (then there are those who REALLY raise the front tire pressure ).
Once again we are beating something to death that we all know the answer ....... I guess we all have nothing better to do
Come on guys we all know why we lower the tire pressure in the rears and why we raise the front tire pressure (then there are those who REALLY raise the front tire pressure
).Once again we are beating something to death that we all know the answer ....... I guess we all have nothing better to do
Le Mans Master
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From: Monroe Township New Jersey
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That's true, I remember those two days very well LOL.
But tire pressure had little or nothing to do with those incidents, cold weather and a moist track played the main roles there. If anything the lower rear pressures actually helped...higher pressures (I was at 26 or 27psi) could've resulted in even less traction and a potentially greater loss of control, at least in my car's situation.
But tire pressure had little or nothing to do with those incidents, cold weather and a moist track played the main roles there. If anything the lower rear pressures actually helped...higher pressures (I was at 26 or 27psi) could've resulted in even less traction and a potentially greater loss of control, at least in my car's situation.
BTW I had 25 lbs in the rears
Last edited by Tommy D; Nov 15, 2008 at 01:37 AM.
Burning Brakes
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the line is drawn, stock is stock no ifs ands or buts. off course the stock LS3 should beat the stock LS2 it has more hp. they shouldn't be on the same list. it beats so many Z06s maybe it should be on the Z06 list as far as me with my little LS2 im still waiting, im not just #1 at cf but also ls1 tech, i guess there list means nothing either
Just Saying
I want to say that I love your car. It's an example of what a bolt on vette can do, but still has room for improvement. With that said, if it didn't 60ft like it does. It really wouldn't be that impressive, because it really doesn't make that much power. Stock is stock, I get it. But a switch to open the NPP before 3500 rpm is crazyness. That's like saying a Midget can't race my stock car because he weighs 75 pounds, and that's not enough weight in the car.I mean the guy listed the switch in his mod list, can I ask were else is he supposed to list it? I moddified my corvette when i fist got it with some wax. It cut through the air a lot better than any other corvette. Aerodynamics were on my side in the 1/4 mile.
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What kind of logic/statement is that?!
Either Dennis's car is fast or it isn't.
You do know that the car trapped in excess of 124mph+ right?
Only a handful of C6s on ANY of the lists are actually matching exceeding that number.
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While I may choose to take risks with my own life, based on my experiences, I choose to dispense conservative advice to the inexperienced in an effort to expose them to lesser risks.
You may choose otherwise.
BTW, how come you east coast guys aren't in the sack yet?
You may choose otherwise.
BTW, how come you east coast guys aren't in the sack yet?
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Race Director
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C6 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
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Never, I don't log off until at least 3 or 4am.
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