hi, could anyone who is reading this please chime in on what all of the brake options for a C6 or Z06 there is on the market?

e.g. every single caliper/rotor/BBK option for the C6?


the ones i know of so far:


brembo monoblocs

stoptech st-60's

alcon's

ssbc C5 calipers front

wilwoods for the C5

OEM Z06's retrofits

Z51 brake brackets/rotors

hardbar/PFC-33's

Mov'it porsche 993 to C5 calipers

the brake man C5 storm convoluted slotted



future setups:

ZR1 OEM ceramics

stoptech carbon ceramics



are there any more choices that i'm missing?

thanks for the time




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Brembos have several options

Alcon also have several options

AP Racing have several options

Each of these have different 6 pot calipers and differnt rotor configuration depending on your needs.


The question is What are you going to do with your car? Some times a BBK is not what you need, or a 15" rotor is not what you need for your purpose.

Many of these options would require to get different wheels with different offsets to fit over the caliper plus different master cylinders to handle the BBK.

 

The Brembo and StopTech brake kits are 100% designed around utilizing the stock master cylinder. Furthermore, both companies design their kits with the stock ABS in mind. Ensuring you get proper brake balance. In fact Brembo just came out with a new Monoblock rear setup. Ultra light and caliper force increased. Utilized bigger pistons and piston bores than the previous kit.(See Sig)

The 15" Brembo brake kit is fantastic. The street pads have a wide range of operating temperatures. You have much better pedal feel and leverage for a much stiffer pedal. Also when you're doing 170mph the confidence you feel having the best in braking technology is priceless.

With the carbon/ceramic rotors the performance gains in braking, acceleration and handling will be dramatic. Sure not everyone needs a BBK, but you will have improved performance 100% of the time.

Supporting the relentless pursuit of performance

Mike

 

Certainly big brakes look great, but aside from that, I am not sure what the utility is for a street car. The brakes on my car can lock the wheels just fine and on the track they do pretty well at my level. Now, most certainly big brakes are the way to go on longer tracks or for racing applications or lots of HPDEs, but what is the advantage on the street?

 

Some of the advantages are...

Better pedal feel and modulation.
Better steering feel due to lighweight rotors and calipers
Increased acceleration
Better stopping distances
Increased handling due to unsprung weight savings
Confidence in braking
Dramatic increases in stopping power when repeated stops
Way stiffer brake pedal as a result of increased leverage from larger rotors
Easier to maintain threshold braking
Rotor and Caliper durability
Longer pad life
Increased pad thickness for less pad fade
Less heat transfer to the brake fluid
etc.

 

I'll give you they are better- but are they cost effective for street use.

 

Significantly more braking power

Everything has it's cost, but for street use they shouldn't be too bad...

 

for Street use, BBKs just look

 

Originally Posted by bowmanized
Some of the advantages are...

Better pedal feel and modulation. Matter of personal taste
Better steering feel due to lighweight rotors and calipers - Lighter by how much over Z51
Increased acceleration - You will have to help me on this one
Better stopping distances - Can't agree. My brakes will activate the ABS and that is as good as it gets - with the same tire.
Increased handling due to unsprung weight savings - By how much
Confidence in braking - I am quite confident in my brakes - expecially after using them on the track at Spring Mountain
Dramatic increases in stopping power when repeated stops - Give you this - better heat management
Way stiffer brake pedal as a result of increased leverage from larger rotors Huh -
Easier to maintain threshold braking Nah - Threshold breaking is just before lockup. You don't know when that is - until you lock up.
Rotor and Caliper durability - Granted but the cost!
Longer pad life - OK - I get about 30K or more out of mine...
Increased pad thickness for less pad fade - How much
Less heat transfer to the brake fluid - how much Remember, I was talking about street use not racing use. Racing is a given
etc.

I'll give you they are better- but are they cost effective for street use.

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Guys running fast HPDE will destroy OEM brakes in 8 sessions. Your getting 30,000 and a hard tracked car will eat them even with race pads in less than 600 miles.

When a pedal feels better and is consistant you will get closer to threshold braking. Experience will tell you when you are near. Guys racing need to do it all te time.

Rotating weight acts like a gyro so 1 pound I have read is equal to 3-4 lb of regular weight. I played with gyro when I was a kid so I know they don't change direction easily.

Get OEM brakes HOT on track and you will lose your confidence fast when you see a wall coming up at 165 at Pocono. They just call them soft walls and they lied.

OEM calipers spread then pads taper which then feel like crap so you dump them faster. More money gone.

When you sell your car you pop on the OEM brakes and sell it. Then you sell the BBK kit for 50-60% I think would be easy so what did it really cost you to be safer? May be nothing as pads last longer.

I was killing C5 OEM brakes with race pads in less than 3 track days closer to two. I put Wilwoods calipers and Stoptech rotors on and now I bet I get about near 3X the life on the pads which cost less than OEM shape. Tons of money saved.

Before I knew what was really going on when I started HPDE's I thought the very same. I am stopping who needs BBK. After getting better brakes I feel they are worth 40-50 hp to me at a track event. I would easliy spot someone that in a real big dollar bet drivers being equal. Good BBK kit leaves your brakes feeling 98% the same as when you started a HPDE session even if you run hard. Have your pedal go to the floor once at speed and have a close call with a wall or another car who can stop and you will know the value of BBK. You can never have to much brake unlike HP. JMHO

 

All True. Look at my sig - No HPDE for me.....

 

what's in the sig? The Vert? Some let verts run. To run on the street at 65 oem brakes are fine but so is 90 HP A Prius is fine for the street.

 

Some great info here

For street, BBK = bling mostly.

For Autocross, BBK = Bling most of the time. SS lines, fluid and proper pads are the ticket.

For HPDE in a Vette, now we start having a real "need" for a BBK. If you only run a few events a year, drive it like you owe on it(instead of like me, like you stole it then stock brakes, with autocross mods can work out. If you drive fast and run allot of events a BBK starts becoming cost and performance effective.

TT in a Vette, I would not do it any other way, unless I am just having some fun, if serious, then bring out the big guns.

RR in a Vette, T1 guys spend a ton of money and time fixing fubar brakes, just burns them up though they work pretty well for a bit. I just pulled off an all new set of calipers, pads and rotors with 2 races and one HPDE on them, none in hot weather. I tossed the rotors in the scrap heap, keeping pads for an emergency only, have to rebuild the calipers.

I installed a 6/4 set of Stoptechs last night, sure they cost a bundle but I also know they last a long time, provide incredible performance and for what I do, far less costly than rebuilding stock brakes all the time

They do look sweet as well, not that I really care

Of course I do!!!

Rick

 

You really can't justify BBKs for a street car, unless your doing 180mph runs often or for the bling bling factor. If you can get ABS to activate, then you've reached the max of the braking afforded by the tires.

Stepping into the BBK realm with a need however, they generally average out to become eventual financial washes compared to the stockers. But you gain the back-of-mind confidence.

 

I would have to disagree. Or maybe there is a really big difference in BBK.
I got the 15" rotor Brembo with racing pads. I have only driven them on the street so far. The difference from stock is HUGE. You stop so much quicker and the brake feel is way better.

Not sure if it would be the 14" kit or pads or another name brand to not notice the huge difference from stock on the streets.

 

How do you like the DS3000 for the street? Are they noisy? I don't mind a little noise for increased performance.

 

The race pads are really good. At first I was not sure how they would perform on the street. They turned out to be really good.

The only downside is that they do squeal. Maybe the squeal will reduce over time, will see.