ls-3 cam choice's Lets talk.
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ls-3 cam choice's Lets talk.
I thought, I read that the Ls-3 has a longer exhaust Valves by 2mm.
This explain's why the shorter ex. lobes of the stock cam.
I want to get a good streetable grind. So will the cam
need to allow for the longer valve's.
This explain's why the shorter ex. lobes of the stock cam.
I want to get a good streetable grind. So will the cam
need to allow for the longer valve's.
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I don't think that Cartek released the specs on that cam. Other than saying it was a mild street cam.
If you consider that stock LS3s dyno around 390 hp....... 463 Hp & 415 rwtq is a impressive number.......... Cartek usually does not build dyno queens but 1/4 racers. High Dyno numbers do not always transulate into fast 1/4 mile times.
The only real way to know If a car is really fast is to race it at the track
Otherwise we are all just bench racing.
If you consider that stock LS3s dyno around 390 hp....... 463 Hp & 415 rwtq is a impressive number.......... Cartek usually does not build dyno queens but 1/4 racers. High Dyno numbers do not always transulate into fast 1/4 mile times.
The only real way to know If a car is really fast is to race it at the track
Otherwise we are all just bench racing.
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These guys seem to have good ideas: VengeanceRD
In your case, I bet this would be a good one.
VRX5 236/238 .601/.605. Choose your LSA per components.
In your case, I bet this would be a good one.
VRX5 236/238 .601/.605. Choose your LSA per components.
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Only?
I've seen a Cartek 'cam only' Corvette with only 380rwtq go 10.9s...they've had cars making only 410 rwtq running 10.5s for that matter. That certainly impresses me.
If one is merely looking for high dyno numbers ONLY then I guess a shop that builds seriously track proven cammed/heads and cam cars isn't for them.
I've seen a Cartek 'cam only' Corvette with only 380rwtq go 10.9s...they've had cars making only 410 rwtq running 10.5s for that matter. That certainly impresses me.
If one is merely looking for high dyno numbers ONLY then I guess a shop that builds seriously track proven cammed/heads and cam cars isn't for them.
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Cams
Do you have a manual or auto?
Would you like some lope or none?
Do you want high power or moderate?
Do you have FI plans?
Having asked these questions, my LG cam is awesome, in the
495HP/440 TQE range, but the car does have a bit of a muscle car sound to it (which I LOVE!). However, It probably wouldn't be the best cam for an auto (a little choppy).
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I want to get a good streetable grind.
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If I was going to do a mild cam, I would expect to be in the area 450rwhp/rwtq
Only?
I've seen a Cartek 'cam only' Corvette with only 380rwtq go 10.9s...they've had cars making only 410 rwtq running 10.5s for that matter. That certainly impresses me.
If one is merely looking for high dyno numbers ONLY then I guess a shop that builds seriously track proven cammed/heads and cam cars isn't for them.
I've seen a Cartek 'cam only' Corvette with only 380rwtq go 10.9s...they've had cars making only 410 rwtq running 10.5s for that matter. That certainly impresses me.
If one is merely looking for high dyno numbers ONLY then I guess a shop that builds seriously track proven cammed/heads and cam cars isn't for them.
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reason I say that my base dyno was 392rwhp/376rwtq, with LG headers, Vararam, Ported TB & a tune, I dyno'd 416rwhp/416rwtq, and thats with the 4:10s !
If I was going to do a mild cam, I would expect to be in the area 450rwhp/rwtq
At the track it's all about the driver, same car, diff drivers can results can vary up to 7 tenths
If I was going to do a mild cam, I would expect to be in the area 450rwhp/rwtq
At the track it's all about the driver, same car, diff drivers can results can vary up to 7 tenths
the guy who is 7/10s slower cant drive at all and needs lessons. sometimes the best mod is driver
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Taking a stick down the track is a very different story...
This CAN result is a very wide varience of times!!
Power under the curve, torque, being able to put down the power, track conditions and DA will determine one's time at the track.
I'm at 448 RWHP and 440 RWT with plenty of power under the curve, and no cam...
Good day!
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guys, sorry, but some of the fastest et'ing cars have come from some of the lowest dyno drum pushing cars. anyone care to look up robz's cam only times/traps in a c5z? with like 396rwhp?
I don't care what carteks rollers spit out....they seem to produce real world et's and MPH trap once tire gets off a drum and hits pavement. I couldn't care less about drum racing
I don't care what carteks rollers spit out....they seem to produce real world et's and MPH trap once tire gets off a drum and hits pavement. I couldn't care less about drum racing
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guys, sorry, but some of the fastest et'ing cars have come from some of the lowest dyno drum pushing cars. anyone care to look up robz's cam only times/traps in a c5z? with like 396rwhp?
I don't care what carteks rollers spit out....they seem to produce real world et's and MPH trap once tire gets off a drum and hits pavement. I couldn't care less about drum racing
I don't care what carteks rollers spit out....they seem to produce real world et's and MPH trap once tire gets off a drum and hits pavement. I couldn't care less about drum racing
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While I understand that some throttle control is needed, how much difference can a driver make on an Automatic that is setup specificaly for drag racing???
Taking a stick down the track is a very different story...
This CAN result is a very wide varience of times!!
Power under the curve, torque, being able to put down the power, track conditions and DA will determine one's time at the track.
I'm at 448 RWHP and 440 RWT with plenty of power under the curve, and no cam...
Good day!
JB
Taking a stick down the track is a very different story...
This CAN result is a very wide varience of times!!
Power under the curve, torque, being able to put down the power, track conditions and DA will determine one's time at the track.
I'm at 448 RWHP and 440 RWT with plenty of power under the curve, and no cam...
Good day!
JB
and 7/10s over the guy with 455 rwhp and beat a zo6 every time he raced i have ran sticks and ran pro and super pro for years with a street car. if you can drive a stick!! it can be very consistent. don't make excuses you run what you brung maybe my next will be a stick so i can show you. everything you stated power under the curve, torque, being able to put down the power, track conditions and da, all apply to an auto, and stick, that's where the driver comes in that's where the clutch and throttle technique shine i thought your dyno was 455 rwhp not 448 with no cam, cant wait to see NOSLO6 track times
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in C6 Tech theory a 460/419 should beat 507/450, for some simple political reasonsI'd love to put a stealth mannered cam in my LS3 that would net me mid/high 400 rwhp/rwtq
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hmm, possibly. Have you looked at the lg dyno? it's very peaky and shifted far to the right side of the graph. that car is a sure candidate for some 4.10 gears. I'd wager that the graph from cartek will provide more area under the curve off idle to 4500 rpms. but regardless, I'd like to see some real world track times out of both setups, thats what counts to me.