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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Hey All,

Everyone has been asking about the PAL. GM has responded and here is your answer.




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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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What a joke. You can get it for the cheapest cars GM has, but not a Corvette.

No iPod jack, no Bluetooth and the they wonder why people buy a Lexus, Infiniti or Acura, not mention BMW and Audi.

I want to apologized to Gene for getting so excited, he is just trying to keep us informed and my frustration came out.

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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I lost quite a bit of respect for GM regarding this matter. Promises,promises and they just keep blowing smoke. Im glad I didnt wait as I installed a new head unit with better intergration.Thanks for the info Gene.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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I hope this means that mid-2008 or 2009 will get an updated NAV and non-NAV radios, since that change may be necessary to support the IPod interface. That would also be an opportunity to get Bluetooth.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Here we go with the whinning again, did you buy a sports car or a luxury sedan? Did you buy your Corvette to drive or to play with gadgets? This thread should be locked, Please
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Here we go with the whinning again, did you buy a sports car or a luxury sedan? Did you buy your Corvette to drive or to play with gadgets? This thread should be locked, Please
I see you have the 3Lt option. Thats a bit hypocritical dont you think? There are options with that package that many would conciter "luxury", more luxurious than wanting a simple ipod intergration stereo like many of todays econo boxes. Mods, ban this person,Please
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyjoe
Here we go with the whinning again, did you buy a sports car or a luxury sedan? Did you buy your Corvette to drive or to play with gadgets? This thread should be locked, Please
This kind of attitude cracks me up. I like to do spirited driving while listening to my favorite tunes. I guess some people just can't multitask music and driving. I'm sorry you're so disadvantage in life.

IPod is kind of primitive in my mind. My current daily driver has a small formfactor carputer mounted in the trunk emulating a CD changer and plays FLAC (losslessly encoded as opposed to MP3) music while displaying the song titles on my radio/head unit. But if I buy a Corvette, there's not much hidden space in the trunk to mount such equipment. I'd be happy to go with an head-unit integrated Ipod and the MP3 encoded music in the 'vette.

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Thanks, Gene. Appreciate the update and again, when it is released, I will buy mine - from you.
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Originally Posted by Johnnyjoe
Here we go with the whinning again, did you buy a sports car or a luxury sedan? Did you buy your Corvette to drive or to play with gadgets? This thread should be locked, Please
Sorry if I offended anyone, I guess this hit me wrong today. Quit smoking a month ago, guess I'm still a little wound up, my bad.
As always Gene has good and up to date info for us.
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Sorry if I offended anyone, I guess this hit me wrong today. Quit smoking a month ago, guess I'm still a little wound up, my bad.
As always Gene has good and up to date info for us.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Sorry if I offended anyone, I guess this hit me wrong today. Quit smoking a month ago, guess I'm still a little wound up, my bad.
As always Gene has good and up to date info for us.
I quit 3 years ago so I know what your going through. Hang in there.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC6
I quit 3 years ago so I know what your going through. Hang in there.
I quit a year ago. I'll never take another puff. Still, you'll never see me complaining about second hand smoke...anyone is welcome to blow a whiff by me anytime!
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Factory head units are for people who don't really care about music.
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Factory head units are for people who don't really care about music.
???? I care....though I must admit I do care less for music in the C6 after listening to those Bose "Premium " speakers. Oh well, I just added Kooks headers...now that is sweet music to my ears!
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Originally Posted by johnodrake
Thanks, Gene. Appreciate the update and again, when it is released, I will buy mine - from you.
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
Factory head units are for people who don't really care about music.
All those years of open headers have taken their toll, but I do remember those days!
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by siffert
???? I care....though I must admit I do care less for music in the C6 after listening to those Bose "Premium " speakers. Oh well, I just added Kooks headers...now that is sweet music to my ears!
I'll re-iterate what I said:

I've never heard a factory head unit/speaker combo that actually sounded good.
And if your car is loud or you are driving fast there is so much noise anyways that you can hardly appreciate the nuances in the music. Then you turn the volume up and the tiny cheap amp inside the HU distorts the music even more. Factory head units are for people who don't care about those things and just want to hear something on their commute to work.

ALSO, the Corvette is a very poor choice of car if you want to enjoy good music; it has a big loud engine, wide howling tires and a stiff frame/suspension that transfers tons of road noise to the thin fibreglass shell that happily resonates with it. The only time you are going to hear really good music in a Corvette is when it is stopped, and if you don't turn it up too loud otherwise the body panels will flex and make noise themselves.

So then your choices become; blow some money on an aftermarket unit that will sound a lot better, though you won't be able to appreciate it very much because the car itself masks a lot of the music.
Or put an exhaust on it and enjoy what you have

Me, personally, I have GHL exhaust on my car. It is loud and I like it. I want to get a Pioneer D3 for it for the navigation though. I listen to music on my car once in a while but I think the quality sucks.
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GM just continues to compound their embarrassment and stupidity. IPODs aint high tech folks.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dvlray6
GM just continues to compound their embarrassment and stupidity. IPODs aint high tech folks.
GM is way behind, but this is the minimum necessary these days for a street car since the days of 6 cd changer (and mp3 cd-roms) is pretty well past already by many years.
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