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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Forgive me guys for droning on, but I know that you all have either done it before or know how so I'm asking regarding my exhaust. OK, currently I have the following pic installed and I want it louder. It's the flowmaster 17416 american thunder and I love the dual look and really don't want to bother with removing/replacing them so now I'm looking into headers. I'm not interested so much in an increase in HP, but more with a louder, throatier sounding exhaust. Will the headers make it louder?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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YES......louder and DEEPER. More noticeable at 4k+ RPMs
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Yes it will increase in sound. The stock cast iron manifolds "keep the sound in" if you will...and the new stainless headers will flow better. Bigger when talking about exhaust usually means more power and more sound.
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My AR headers and Route 66's are pure music brother! I do get more drone, but love the pop and burble i get on decel.
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ok, great. Now what headers do i need, bearing in mind which mufflers I have (if it makes any difference). Links would be much appreciated.

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It will get a lot louder, especially at WOT. If all you want is the sound, then just get whichever headers you can get the best price on...the tone and volume wont change much regardless of which headers you use.
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Originally Posted by Prodago
ok, great. Now what headers do i need, bearing in mind which mufflers I have (if it makes any difference). Links would be much appreciated.

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Seems LG, AR or Kooks headers are all great choices.
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Headers will make the car louder... but headers are a very expensive mod for sound only...

IMHO, headers are great and improve the performance of the car, but for sound only it's a little bit much to pay.

Keep in mind that headers aren't cheap (around 1500-1800 depending on flavor) to have them installed won't be cheap (usually around 500 bucks) unless you do it yourself and it's not an easy job for somebody who is not familiar with it or has at least moderate mechanical experience. In addition, there is a good chance (maybe 50/50 from what I've read here) that you'll get a check engine light form the rear O2 sensors. This means that you'll be running rich, the light will be on and you won't pass inspection until you get a tune. A good tune will cost another 300-600 depending on where you go. And on top of it all, there is a decent chance that some if not a good portion of dealers will void your powertrain warranty due to the mods. All of this for more sound. If you ask me, it's not worth it and that your car probably sounds find the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Prodago
and really don't want to bother with removing/replacing them so now I'm looking into headers.
If "bother" is your issue than keep in mind that installing headers is 10x more "bother" than replacing your exhaust.
If all you want is loud then get some BB bullets. They'll be all the "loud" you need. Much cheaper and much less "bother" than headers.
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you're probably right. However I did find some slp coated long tube headers for $753 shipped. But then the install etc. That's why I'm probing everyone on here about what to do. I really like the dual look and the Flows that I have already are about the only ones I've seen that offer them. All the others are quad, which IMHO are sooooo dated looking. I agree with your post....except the part that "my car probably sounds fine the way it is"...Kinda presumptuous isn't it? But I do thank you for your opinion as it was what I asked for.
I've just install my flows and so it will probably be awhile before I do anything else. I always exhaust all resources before making a purchase and I was very disappointed when I first cranked it after the install as I was thinking that I could "check" that off my things to do list. thanks to all for you input.
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Originally Posted by BaBa Booey
If "bother" is your issue than keep in mind that installing headers is 10x more "bother" than replacing your exhaust.
If all you want is loud then get some BB bullets. They'll be all the "loud" you need. Much cheaper and much less "bother" than headers.
point taken as I was replying to the guy who posted before you but I forgot to "quote" him. I think you're both right. Stay away from headers.
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Correct me if I'm wrong (anybody), but if you only get headers but not the cat-backs then you won't have any catalytic converters on your car...
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Yup!
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No one here has mentioned this... how about cut outs? Of course this car sounds like it has cut outs and headers. The cut outs seem to make a big difference on the noise level.

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Originally Posted by SnapperDragon
Correct me if I'm wrong (anybody), but if you only get headers but not the cat-backs then you won't have any catalytic converters on your car...
Most people who get headers get the entire system. My 05 C6 Z51 6sp has the Kooks system. It came with the headers, 3 inch cats and X pipe, and the rear sections to the over the axle exhaust. Plus the 02 extenders (4). Today it seems kind of foolish not to run cats. My cat back system are magnaflows. My current motor is a forged LS3/L92 stroked 427 and I don't think my cats are robbing me of any great HP.
Currently it makes 525rwhp/500rwtq. So I don't think cats are a bad thing at all. I also think they quiet your exhaust a little. To be honest I don't remember if the headers increased exhaust noise at all. So I'm no help there.
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Originally Posted by Tom_Slick
No one here has mentioned this... how about cut outs? Of course this car sounds like it has cut outs and headers. The cut outs seem to make a big difference on the noise level.

ok, new to this whole "cut-out thing" but Thats the sound that I'm looking for! The car in that youtube video has to have more to it that just the muffler cut outs huh? If not, then Can someone educated me on how to do it. It looks like they are dumping the exhaust before it reaches the mufflers. If so, wouldn't that mess with the computer somehow?
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Originally Posted by Prodago
ok, new to this whole "cut-out thing" but Thats the sound the I'm looking for. The car in that youtube video has to have more to it that just the muffler cut outs huh? If not, then Can someone educated me on how to do it. It looks like they are dumping the exhaust before it reaches the mufflers. If so, wouldn't that mess with the computer somehow?
thanks
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Cutouts are a good option and not too expensive, about $400. You can install headers to get the hp gain, use your stock echaust cans to keep the noise down, and open the cutouts when you want a mean sound. Yes, the cutouts are positioned before the mufflers. When you open them, you pretty much have an open exhaust. Still, with the stock manifold and cats in place, the cutouts still arent very loud. If all you want is the sound, I still think you should stick to your exhaust.
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Here's a link so you can see how they are setup....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1628234
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Forgot to to mention...but if THAT is the sound you're looking for, you'll need more than headers. For that sound, you NEED headers AND a cam.
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Originally Posted by MaxOctane
Headers will make the car louder... but headers are a very expensive mod for sound only...

IMHO, headers are great and improve the performance of the car, but for sound only it's a little bit much to pay.

Keep in mind that headers aren't cheap (around 1500-1800 depending on flavor) to have them installed won't be cheap (usually around 500 bucks) unless you do it yourself and it's not an easy job for somebody who is not familiar with it or has at least moderate mechanical experience. In addition, there is a good chance (maybe 50/50 from what I've read here) that you'll get a check engine light form the rear O2 sensors. This means that you'll be running rich, the light will be on and you won't pass inspection until you get a tune. A good tune will cost another 300-600 depending on where you go. And on top of it all, there is a decent chance that some if not a good portion of dealers will void your powertrain warranty due to the mods. All of this for more sound. If you ask me, it's not worth it and that your car probably sounds find the way it is.
Seriously? This really made me reconsider getting a pair of headers. Seems to be a real pain in the *** if you want more sound
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