Ok guys car problem help?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Bill is one of the Bellmore family and if it wasnt for the locked computer, I would have fixed his car the first time he had issues with a complete tune and if needed, remove the heads CC them and mill to a respectable chamber size. They are likely a 72cc head. The cam specs were also top secret but likely in the 224 range although I have no doubt they are lazy lobes. 225cc heads were a bit overkill for the application. It wasnt a very thought through combo but he was made happy with the 4.10's making up for the low end.
Now again with issues, even if diagnosed, he is married to this tuner.
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '06
well it would be nice
Haha, I was picturing myself with a milk mustache and a sombrero on saying...."no Rich but I live 1/2 mile from this guy".
Bill is one of the Bellmore family and if it wasnt for the locked computer, I would have fixed his car the first time he had issues with a complete tune and if needed, remove the heads CC them and mill to a respectable chamber size. They are likely a 72cc head. The cam specs were also top secret but likely in the 224 range although I have no doubt they are lazy lobes. 225cc heads were a bit overkill for the application. It wasnt a very thought through combo but he was made happy with the 4.10's making up for the low end.
Now again with issues, even if diagnosed, he is married to this tuner.
Bill is one of the Bellmore family and if it wasnt for the locked computer, I would have fixed his car the first time he had issues with a complete tune and if needed, remove the heads CC them and mill to a respectable chamber size. They are likely a 72cc head. The cam specs were also top secret but likely in the 224 range although I have no doubt they are lazy lobes. 225cc heads were a bit overkill for the application. It wasnt a very thought through combo but he was made happy with the 4.10's making up for the low end.
Now again with issues, even if diagnosed, he is married to this tuner.
The heads were Trick Flow 225 and the cam a 224 228 at a 114 what ever the heck that is lol .Some times there is something to be said about keeping things stock. Gm had it pretty dam right
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
So in the end there is something to be said about taking people's advice. I'm sorry this happened to you but you were warned.
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I'll bet with Craigster. The tune is the only thing with variable parameters that explain the power loss in some modes and not in others. The simplest thing to do would be to let Spin scan it and end all speculation.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16-'17
No mods
It doesn't happen with a stock engine. Take it to your dealer and have them return it to factory origional condition.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
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It doesn't happen with a stock engine. Take it to your dealer and have them return it to factory origional condition.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '06
oh take it easy on me
I have no isssues with any of my mods and most everyone in the area that told you to not go where you did doesnt have issues with their cars. You wanted to convenience yourself with the local guy and now you see why people cross the river for a tuner that does it right and stands behind their work.
So in the end there is something to be said about taking people's advice. I'm sorry this happened to you but you were warned.
So in the end there is something to be said about taking people's advice. I'm sorry this happened to you but you were warned.
So meet me at the starting line I will take a car length or two if you will give it especially since you think my car has issues
But do not ask for a second chance................
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St. Jude Donor '06
Craig
You know that answer I have called him and he will not remove the tune period. Call the man up north and see if he will remove a tune.
My point was just let him chime in on the post and explain to everyone.
He has never said he would not look at the car actually he leaves me no choice does he and that is my point
My point was just let him chime in on the post and explain to everyone.
He has never said he would not look at the car actually he leaves me no choice does he and that is my point
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you mean he wont remove the lock? not the tune--right? How much is a new ECM out of curiosity. Maybe go that route? Can someone else with the same software unlock the tune Or does it have to be this same individual?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
It doesn't happen with a stock engine. Take it to your dealer and have them return it to factory origional condition.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
A C6 Corvette doesn't need any modifications for street use. It just lowers your resale value and causes these type of problems.
LJ
PS this will probably stir up a lot of dissent.
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3K bog
I have a 05 C6 with about 4200 miles
I have head, cam, headers, gears and air box
Start the car let it warm up to maybe 100 degress coolant temp.
Start to drive as soon as I hit about 3000 rpm car bogs down shift to second gear hit around 3000 same thing bogs down. Then it disappears car drives normally. Any ideas ? I thought maybe with inactivity the car has a clog in the fuel system......then again I am not a car buff so no clue about this stuff any help would be appreciated. Thanks
I have head, cam, headers, gears and air box
Start the car let it warm up to maybe 100 degress coolant temp.
Start to drive as soon as I hit about 3000 rpm car bogs down shift to second gear hit around 3000 same thing bogs down. Then it disappears car drives normally. Any ideas ? I thought maybe with inactivity the car has a clog in the fuel system......then again I am not a car buff so no clue about this stuff any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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100% i had lots of problems, was at the dealer for the same problems 20 times stock. then i started modding, Cartek did all the work on my car, never a problem. i took it back to the dealer for a tsb, the dealer screwed it up, and couldn't get the trans temps and shift points right or the converter to lock. the service manager asked me if Cartek could tune the trans for them, so i asked Julio and he did. the service manager went for a ride and said pure Genius, what a difference. he said quote GM should send them all their
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '06
oh boy this thread has wondered
I am not evn so sure he would let me walk with the tune if I told him his liability to the car is over> these guys are just protecting themselves from the wolves that ruin the intergrity of all that is right. You know the people who want something for nothing etc etc.....
PS any other ideas on my bogging at 3000 rpm........as my first post stated
