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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Bench racing is never good for accurate numbers... You have to go out and do it. Another example is I trapped 123 at sac on a day when JBs car trapped 122. Yet I dynod 402whp and he dynod ~450whp.

DA conversions will not take into account many variables that can effect a 1/4 mile run, but records are made in cold weather and you WILL run faster in better weather.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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I don't know what the big deal is here. This is a forum where most of us sit in a dark bedroom in our underwear posting under a "forum name". If you don't like your times, just go ahead and correct them. It's like golf - if they didn't want you to cheat they wouldn't put an eraser on the pencil
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jbsblownc5
Only one problem my friend, by Dec 2008 whose to say you'll still be the champ...


Gota go to work...
i do and we can make it 2 out of three or six out of 10 my car hotlaps very well. 11.47 aint beating 10.92 in any da we both have had 000 so lets make it a pro tree, like you said before it takes no skill to run an auto, when i do a 1.45 60 ft and leave so hard on you you will choke spin then miss 3rd you know im just joking the best part of racing is the smack talking
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 11secondGP
Bench racing is never good for accurate numbers... You have to go out and do it. Another example is I trapped 123 at sac on a day when JBs car trapped 122. Yet I dynod 402whp and he dynod ~450whp.

DA conversions will not take into account many variables that can effect a 1/4 mile run, but records are made in cold weather and you WILL run faster in better weather.
thats 100%
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Never being one to back away from a challenge to prove or disprove a theory, I'll take it upon myself to test the DA question.

Not that it's a great feat and one that will surely be bested, but I presently hold the #5 spot on the bone stock list. So I do have somewhat of a reputation to uphold, for what little that's worth.

I've made several dozen passes in the past 2 months in Phoenix at a track that is usually well prepared. I've recorded all my times and data from a professional weather station that is located less than 2 miles from the track. I have a ls3 a6 with a vararam and a mild tune that allows WOT starts with no spin. The car and myself are consistent within .07 seconds using a correction calculation for consecutive passes without changes in equipment or driving technique.

For testing purposes I'll make a minimum of 3 runs on April 5th in Phoenix assuming no rain. I'll post the results here and include the 1480' elevation and weather data. With no changes other than fuel I'll drive to Atco in time to run on April 15. Dennis can observe and verify times and we can find the closest weather station to do the corrections.

It can't get any better than that. What say you all?
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Never being one to back away from a challenge to prove or disprove a theory, I'll take it upon myself to test the DA question.

Not that it's a great feat and one that will surely be bested, but I presently hold the #5 spot on the bone stock list. So I do have somewhat of a reputation to uphold, for what little that's worth.

I've made several dozen passes in the past 2 months in Phoenix at a track that is usually well prepared. I've recorded all my times and data from a professional weather station that is located less than 2 miles from the track. I have a ls3 a6 with a vararam and a mild tune that allows WOT starts with no spin. The car and myself are consistent within .07 seconds using a correction calculation for consecutive passes without changes in equipment or driving technique.

For testing purposes I'll make a minimum of 3 runs on April 5th in Phoenix assuming no rain. I'll post the results here and include the 1480' elevation and weather data. With no changes other than fuel I'll drive to Atco in time to run on April 15. Dennis can observe and verify times and we can find the closest weather station to do the corrections.

It can't get any better than that. What say you all?
We'll wait til we see your times before we decide whether (weather?) to believe you or not
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
We'll wait til we see your times before we decide whether (weather?) to believe you or not
So what's to believe. I run in Phoenix. Post the times. Drive to Atco. Run there and post times.

You make the call with the data I provide.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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So what's to believe. I run in Phoenix. Post the times. Drive to Atco. Run there and post times.

You make the call with the data I provide.
It was a joke.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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It was a joke.
OK, you got me.

I hope Dennis reads this and can provide a helmet so I don't have to drag one to NJ.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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For testing purposes I'll make a minimum of 3 runs on April 5th in Phoenix assuming no rain. I'll post the results here and include the 1480' elevation and weather data. With no changes other than fuel I'll drive to Atco in time to run on April 15. Dennis can observe and verify times and we can find the closest weather station to do the corrections.
Wow driving across the country to test DA... now that IS wild!
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
OK, you got me.

I hope Dennis reads this and can provide a helmet so I don't have to drag one to NJ.
Tom the helmet is waiting, but wish you could use a portable track side weather station, 2 miles uphill or down can make a big difference
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Tom the helmet is waiting, but wish you could use a portable track side weather station, 2 miles uphill or down can make a big difference
Exactly. Weather data taken from a weather station approx. 2 miles from the track is of no value. It will tell you what the weather conditions were approximately 2 miles away, but not at track side.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Exactly. Weather data taken from a weather station approx. 2 miles from the track is of no value. It will tell you what the weather conditions were approximately 2 miles away, but not at track side.
It must be taken at the track.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
No, because there is no way to accurately do it.
Traction (or lack thereof), wind conditions, one's inability to properly adapt to the new/different atmospheric conditions, you can only get a remotely rough estimate.

Oh and btw, this thread will turn into a raging sh|t storm in approximately 10 posts.

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Never being one to back away from a challenge to prove or disprove a theory, I'll take it upon myself to test the DA question.

Not that it's a great feat and one that will surely be bested, but I presently hold the #5 spot on the bone stock list. So I do have somewhat of a reputation to uphold, for what little that's worth.

I've made several dozen passes in the past 2 months in Phoenix at a track that is usually well prepared. I've recorded all my times and data from a professional weather station that is located less than 2 miles from the track. I have a ls3 a6 with a vararam and a mild tune that allows WOT starts with no spin. The car and myself are consistent within .07 seconds using a correction calculation for consecutive passes without changes in equipment or driving technique.

For testing purposes I'll make a minimum of 3 runs on April 5th in Phoenix assuming no rain. I'll post the results here and include the 1480' elevation and weather data. With no changes other than fuel I'll drive to Atco in time to run on April 15. Dennis can observe and verify times and we can find the closest weather station to do the corrections.

It can't get any better than that. What say you all?
I really am driving across country. I'm leaving WC Pa. for pahrump NV...unfortunately i will be road racing. Send PM...maybe we can "cross paths" i will be driving through Arizona....bright yellow vette...can't miss it.
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I don't know what the big deal is here. This is a forum where most of us sit in a dark bedroom in our underwear posting under a "forum name".
Speak for yourself My computers (desktops and laptops) are in well lighted home office areas. So too, why bother even wearing underwear in your bedroom? Finally, thats an interesting "forum name" you have...am curious as to what your real name is.

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Tom the helmet is waiting, but wish you could use a portable track side weather station, 2 miles uphill or down can make a big difference
Well I been thinkin bout buying one anyways, so might as well now. Maybe I can talk Glenn into taking the trip to Speedworld to observe. hint hint

Helmet size is 7 1/4 just so you know. Head hasn't swelled up too much recently.
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I really am driving across country. I'm leaving WC Pa. for pahrump NV...unfortunately i will be road racing. Send PM...maybe we can "cross paths" i will be driving through Arizona....bright yellow vette...can't miss it.
I'm leaving Phoenix on the 9th headed east in a CR. If your path crosses mine, let's stop for lunch.
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Well I been thinkin bout buying one anyways, so might as well now. Maybe I can talk Glenn into taking the trip to Speedworld to observe. hint hint

Helmet size is 7 1/4 just so you know. Head hasn't swelled up too much recently.
dont worry your head can swell, it will still fit in my helmet
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Speak for yourself My computers (desktops and laptops) are in well lighted home office areas. So too, why bother even wearing underwear in your bedroom? Finally, thats an interesting "forum name" you have...am curious as to what your real name is.
Paul Johnson is my real name - most people just call me "PJ"
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